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Frank Gerety 1-pipe steam book?
jpf321
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does anyone know where I can find a copy of Frank Gerety's book (online or hardcopy):
Gerety, Frank. <strong><em>How to Get the Best From One-Pipe Steam</em></strong>. New York: NYC Department of Housing Preservation and Development, 1987 (New York: City Books (1987), 1 Centre Street, Rm 2223, New York, NY 10007.)
Amazon shows it as "limited availability" <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-get-best-one-pipe-steam/dp/B00072QSDE">http://www.amazon.com/How-get-best-one-pipe-steam/dp/B00072QSDE</a>
FYI .. I did find this very interesting paper:
<a href="http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/10191625-8qJZ5M/webviewable/10191625.pdf">ENERGY SAVINGS IN ONE-PIPE STEAM HEATING SYSTEMS FITTED WITH HIGH-CAPACITY AIR VENTS Prepared for
THE NEW YORK STATE ENERGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY - September 1994</a>
.. oh it looks like this may have already been in The Wall archives .. but without a link to the document .. here is the old Wall thread: <a href="http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/124247/Interesting-NY-research-study-on-venting-one-pipe-steam-systems">http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/124247/Interesting-NY-research-study-on-venting-one-pipe-steam-systems</a>
Thanks.
Gerety, Frank. <strong><em>How to Get the Best From One-Pipe Steam</em></strong>. New York: NYC Department of Housing Preservation and Development, 1987 (New York: City Books (1987), 1 Centre Street, Rm 2223, New York, NY 10007.)
Amazon shows it as "limited availability" <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-get-best-one-pipe-steam/dp/B00072QSDE">http://www.amazon.com/How-get-best-one-pipe-steam/dp/B00072QSDE</a>
FYI .. I did find this very interesting paper:
<a href="http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/10191625-8qJZ5M/webviewable/10191625.pdf">ENERGY SAVINGS IN ONE-PIPE STEAM HEATING SYSTEMS FITTED WITH HIGH-CAPACITY AIR VENTS Prepared for
THE NEW YORK STATE ENERGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY - September 1994</a>
.. oh it looks like this may have already been in The Wall archives .. but without a link to the document .. here is the old Wall thread: <a href="http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/124247/Interesting-NY-research-study-on-venting-one-pipe-steam-systems">http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/124247/Interesting-NY-research-study-on-venting-one-pipe-steam-systems</a>
Thanks.
1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics
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What About . . .
1 Centre Street? Have you checked there?0 -
i have ...
by way of Phone Call (you only have option to leave message) .. and email .. but while waiting for them to respond, I figured that I would try here as well. You never know what Rod has stored away on that drive of his1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
NYHPD
My Father worked for the NYHPD, Ill ask him if he knows anything0 -
Not @ 1 Centre Street
Not on the 22nd floor or in the City Store on the ground floor.0 -
great ..
If anyone has a hardcopy to loan .. I'm happy to scan it and make it available to all assuming copyrights allow this, and/or with permission of Mr. Gerety. Since it looks like a NYC document, copyrights should be clear.1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
does this mean that...
you were in the vicinity and were able to inquire directly (or reached someone by phone) .. much thanks for that!! The hunt continues.1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
sidebar: NYSERDA paper...
I have read through the study (linked in original post) .. regarding the ability of main venting to save fuel .. what disappoints me the most is that they have all this fabulous data however absolutely NO MENTION of venting capacity they used nor how they determined appropriate capacity.
I'm considering giving them a call to see if they will sponsor another study for next year's heating season .. is there anyone else in NYC that would be interested in collaborating on an updated study based on the new work by Gill & Pajek and the ability to utilize iButton Dataloggers .. what may be nice is to secure the same exact building as the 1993 study assuming little has changed.
jpf1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
Yes . . .
I was in the vicinity this afternoon and stopped in.0 -
funny .. 1 Centre just called back...
Apparently this is a VERY HOT item .. since someone came in just today asking for the same book ... haha.. she gave me number for Dept. of Buildings .. calling now.1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
Gerety book search update ...
NYC Bookstore sent me to Dept of Buildings (212-566-5000) where I left a message for someone named Lisa, in DOB Customer Service division ..
Then I called NYC HPD (212-863-6300) directly and spoke with someone named Eric in their "press" division .. he seemed generally interested in being of assistance and said he would follow-up tomorrow by phone or email.1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
HPD
Sorry JPF, i spoke to my Dad, no luck with the book, he didn't work at that location w/HPD, but he will keep his eyes open if anything comes up0 -
thanks
thanks for asking.1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
Burnham Book
JPF - I've read the New York study but believe I have deleted it when I switched computers. The only beneficial items were of vent diagrams on the last 5 pages - Page 42 -47 which I saved. Do you have a copy of the Burnham Heating Helper? - Rod
[url=http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/128957/Indirect-radiators]http://www.heatinghelp.com/forum-thread/128957/Indirect-radiators0 -
i do now ..
Rod --
I do now .. thanks .. I wanted to also mention that I reassembled the 1925 Hoffman Data Book that Dan had posted .. the pages were all out of order .. I ordered them properly and cropped them down .. Dan has reposted the updated version: http://www.heatinghelp.com/article/163/Older-Steam-Heating-Systems/1306/Hoffman-Data-Book1-pipe Homeowner - Queens, NYC
NEW: SlantFin Intrepid TR-30 + Tankless + Riello 40-F5 @ 0.85gph | OLD: Fitzgibbons 402 boiler + Beckett "SR" Oil Gun @ 1.75gph
installed: 0-20oz/si gauge | vaporstat | hour-meter | gortons on all rads | 1pc G#2 + 1pc G#1 on each of 2 mains
Connected EDR load: 371 sf venting load: 2.95cfm vent capacity: 4.62cfm
my NEW system pics | my OLD system pics0 -
As far as I know,
the book is long out of print. Frank wrote it in '87 for H.P.D. and holds the copyright. I haven't heard from Frank in years, nor has anyone else I know who knew him. We don't know whether he's still with us or not. He vanished.Retired and loving it.0
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