system2000 are they as good as they claim

sean_33

are system 2000 boilers as good as they are claimed to be

oil-2-4-6-gas

if installed correctly and serviced -annualy they are --

steve_29

and I might add , serviced by someone who understands them.

The only problems I encounter, are ones created by unqualified service people.

Erich_3

Better

They are even better than they are claimed to be. AFUE is not an accurate measure of their efficiency. They do not have the problems found in condensing boilers.

billtwocase

they are

I've mentioned on here and other sites that I have used them since 1984, and they are very impressive. Efficiency, noise level, Digital Manager, and so on. As stated by others, they require qualified techs, who also have an open mind, to service them, and they are American designed and manufactured. peace

Al Letellier_9

sys 2000

agreed.
The real problem is that they won't train anyone but there dealers to service the equipment. Can you be sure the guy who installs it will be around when you need them???

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billtwocase

training

Al, they train year round. Their classes do cost a few dollars, but worth it. There really isn't any complication that they can have that others can't also experience. The manager is the only special feature, and is easily troubleshot with flashing lights. With the manual, they are a walk in the park. peace

rich p_4

training

I have been servicing and installing for almost 9 years
Great support, excellent training. They will pretty much come to you for training, or they have training very frequently. Its not just sales show either.
Personally, I dont understand what is so difficult.
Beckett or Carlin or Riello, with basic primary control
An energy manager with lights, pre wired and QUIET
And they can come with oil LP or Natural.
Guys give it a try.
Rich P

billtwocase

Amen Rich

Amazing the technology available and simplified. With a system like this, there is no need for outdoor reset. Purges all it's energy. and totally on demand system, and plus side it's American born and bred. peace

steve_29

Al you statement is totally wrong, anyone can get training on this system, for those actually interested.

Maybe your confused with the Blue Flame burner out there, not only had you better had the training, but have the tools, parts and equipment to service it.

Training is even available on this technology for those taking an interest.

Jim_64

Service seminars

Al, you're cordially invited to any of our training seminars. We have one a month up through November. In the spring we're out on the road from Maryland to Maine. A lot of attendees are what we call a non-dealer. We give them the same tech support that we extend to our dealers.

If you have a problem or question with one of our systems just call and ask for Tech Support.

Robert O'Brien

There

is no more efficient oil boiler,that much is fact. The remainder of the debate is opinion.See attachment

Leo_33

A Good Book

They give out a great manual at all the trade shows. All you have to do is read it. As far as problems, FOLLOW THE MANUAL to set the burner up. Nozzle and pump pressure then use the instruments. Oh, you can't see the flame that excludes some but I doubt they are reading this. The Manager, read the manual. No different than learning a
Buderus, Viessman, or Tekmar control. Each has it's own traits.

Leo

Al Letellier_9

training


Well, someone should tell the reps in Maine, cause everytime I've asked, have been told if you don't sell it, we can't train you. Besides, I've removed 5 from service in the last 2 year cause they leak....all less than 15 years old and the new replacement boiler ran better and used less fuel, and it wasn't a System 2000...yes I did check warrantee, but customers didnt want another one.
So I rest my case.

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steve_29

Who was servicing the boiler?

I'd guess whoever did, didn't know what they were doing.

What boilers did you install that were more efficient than S2000?

I think there maybe alot of interest, because the S2000 has been tested by an independant national lab, more efficient than a 95% ModCon, they must of missed that one.

billtwocase

Al

Are you sure it wasn't condensation? The Classic manager era boilers needed a dual aquastat on the return. I have never found a leaker yet, not saying not possible, no way. but have 1979 and up EK's only needed aquabank replcements. They do require annual servicing like any other unit out there, and if set properly, it's like sand. peace

Unknown

Good product, Good people, Service friendly, Good training. All around good outfit. Going to there place in Jersey in July for training and tour. However just like anything on the market, it can be screwed up by the moron mafia!

billtwocase

Echo Ed

They're always a phone call away, and always willing to help. I have always wanted to go down there to the motherland, but they come up my way for training. peace