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What would be a labor factor per SQ ft

Mad Dog_2
Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,519
than a 5' X 7' bathroom. Unless you are doing repetitive installs (new homes) of apartment buildings, I would have some basic parameters to work with, but most projects are slightly different. Mad Dog

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  • bigugh_4
    bigugh_4 Member Posts: 406
    What would be a labor factor per SQ ft

    to install stapel down radiant tube heating, and also for tie down to wire?
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
    Pricing?

    Anywhere from a lot to a little. Why are you asking here? Do you have heating contractors you can call?

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  • bigugh_4
    bigugh_4 Member Posts: 406
    I know my price. It's not a price i am looking after.

    The Q is How much time it takes to install a SQ ft. of radient on a stapel down floor, and a concerte wire tie down.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
    I'd have to see it

    I am sure you're not happy with the "don't know" answer. I'm sorry.

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  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
    right.

    I get asked this all the time. One GC even told me "my plumber charges me xx per sq ft". My response is every job is different.

    Wish it was easy as sq. ft pricing.
  • Mark Eatherton
    Mark Eatherton Member Posts: 5,858
    Roughly speaking...

    1.5 to 2 man hours for a 250 foot loop.

    1.5 for a 12" staple down for a good crew.

    2 hours for 9" OC tie down, unless you're using one of them fancy rebar tyeing machines, in which case a good crew can do it in an hour and a half.

    Tube density (9" OC vs, 12" OC) has something to do with it as well.

    So, for above example the labor factor for 12" on center staple down at 1' density per square foot would be 90 minutes divided by 250 foot length = .36 minutes per foot. Your milage may vary...

    As MD pointed out, if it is in a tight space with lots of hair pin bends, at a tight center, the labor factor may be double.

    Best bet is to approximate it, then track it on a regular basis and adjust your estimation spreadsheet accordingly. Ask your field guys often, because as they get better at it, their labor factor goes down, which is to your advantage as it pertains to efficiency and competitiveness.

    ME

    PS, How you doing ol' timer?

    ME

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  • Mark Eatherton
    Mark Eatherton Member Posts: 5,858
    Had the same situation on the phone the other day...

    Pre-qualifying a job, and he said "My plumber does it for me for $4.00 per square foot!" I said GIVE ME HIS PHONE NUMBER, he's doing it for less than my direct costs of labor and material, I can hire him and get RICH QUICK...

    dead silence, then CLICK, buzzzzzzz.

    Yeah, right :-) I was born YESTERDAY!

    ME

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  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
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    Northampton, MA
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  • Leo G_101
    Leo G_101 Member Posts: 87
    Gary

    on average, my guys do about 2500 square feet a day. That is for 2 of them. But as Mad Dog states, that can change by the layout parameters. They just completed installing 11,500 feet of 3/4 tie down, plus 1500 feet of 1/2 tie down in four days. It was a 100 x 100 box basicaly.

    But for my quoting, I generally work on the 2500 feet of tube per day.

    Hope this helps,

    Leo G
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