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GW's first drop header

GW
GW Member Posts: 4,832
I know you guys like steam pics, this is a 4 section on high fire (1.5 gpm nozzle, 1.75 net) with a 2 1/2" header. The copper returns were there; don't blame it on me. One main (with the steel coupling) was counter flow, the others (two mains off of the other riser) were parellel flow. It seemed to work nicley, and the HO commented that it heated the house in no time.

I'm guessing I'll come across like a bone head to some folks out there, but when an oil guy leaves an efficiency slip stating the steam boiler is running at 86%, is that just stupidity or just a simple slip or moral integrity? 300 degree stach stack temp on a 50 year old oil boiler? Perhaps the kid didn't wait around for the boiler to actually boil?

gw



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  • V8toilet
    V8toilet Member Posts: 71


    It looks nice but if one of those is counter flow than where is the drip for it? Is the returning condensate just dumping back into the header?
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
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  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    Welcome to the Dropheader club!!

    Your membership card will come in the mail ;-)

    Nice Gary, Very nice!!

    As far as the counterflow line if you can take it back a bit and put in a tee and run it back to your condesate it will help out, Piping looks real good nice and neat as i have learned thats the only way you guys work!! nice and neat!

    The folks at the coffee shop were very impressed with your guys and so was i, you got a good crew there !!



    David AKA.... Dr Pepper
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
    cool

    Thanks for the kind words, we do our best and on most days I go home feeling good about life.

    So, I could ditch the BM coupling and install a tee, drop the condensate into the return water. But, how or when do I know I HAVE to? The old boiler seemed to work. I agree I should have noticed this (duhhh on me), and next time I'll drip the counterflow.

    Gary

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  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    That's some real nice piping

    only thing I would change, as others have said, is to drip the counterflow main before the header. Returning condensate will quench the steam.

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  • Brad White_202
    Brad White_202 Member Posts: 105
    See How She Runs...

    Very nice piping, Gary- Orderly and true;

    I like the dry return Calliope array of vents there too.

    How is she under fire? I agree re: the counterflow drip, oh well, but then, if it works well regardless, that speaks louder than anything I can add.

    Curious what pipe dope you use. That stuff looks old-timey like the old white lead in linseed oil (but I am sure it is not).

    Great work- yes, you and your crew should go home proud of that creation.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
    I into dope

    Rectorseal #5 is my choice with steam. The HO is thrilled, so I'll let the pipe go drippless for now. Thanks, gw

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  • Norm Harvey
    Norm Harvey Member Posts: 684


    Hey Gary!

    Glad to see you keeping busy. The job looks great! Aside fromt he drip issue, my only critique would be drain valves on the hartford side of the returns, I cant quite see in the pictures if there is one or not.

    (You know its kind of funny when you notice yourself trying to see around a corner in a photograph, so you start leaning your head as if to get a better angle on it.)

    I love the way all your returns are lined up like ducks in a row. It's beautiful!

    I have to say Gary with all honesty I'm jealous that I dont work for you. You'd be such a better guy to work for than my current boss.

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  • Kool Rod
    Kool Rod Member Posts: 175
    g'morning

    Hello Norm, what drain valves? I must be missing something. Thanks for the kind words, and I hope your current employer isn't reading this! gary
  • Brad White_202
    Brad White_202 Member Posts: 105
    Norm is

    his own current employer :) I do not think he is paying him enough.

    :P
  • Kool Rod
    Kool Rod Member Posts: 175
    Ok

    something is wrong here, I (gary) just posted that previous response and some Terry person showed up as the author.
  • Brad White_202
    Brad White_202 Member Posts: 105
    Cookie Monster

    Dump your cookies, Gary and you can restore yourself :P

    At least you did not come back as a woman with that awful red dress...
  • Paul Rohrs_4
    Paul Rohrs_4 Member Posts: 466
    Calliope....

    Calliope, yes-siree.....um...wait a minute....Webster, Webster, Webster, where are you when I need you....okay...here it is.

    Calliope: A musical instrument consisting of a set of harsh-sounding steam whistles that are activated by a keyboard.

    Ahhhhhh.......I learned something today. Thanks Brad



    Regards,

    PR
  • Norm Harvey
    Norm Harvey Member Posts: 684


    Hey Gary, Im on a sketch drawing bender so here it is.

    Like I said I cant tell from the picture, but heres what I'm talking about.

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  • Brad White_203
    Brad White_203 Member Posts: 506
    Fish or Flocculants?

    Hey Norm! Great idea on putting hardy, temperature resistant fish in the boiler to make it self cleaning.

    How Koi of you to suggest that.


    Pass the Wasabi,

    Brad
  • Norm Harvey
    Norm Harvey Member Posts: 684


    Just going green! Im working on a glass boiler vessel to show off the fish. Its all working towards my master plan to bring mechanical rooms where they shood be,.. in the living room!

    Hearths have had that market cornered for far too long.

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