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Engineers vs. Architects (Dan H.)

ScottRW
ScottRW Member Posts: 33
in THE MAIN WALL
As a builder/hydronic installer, I sometimes get in early on the mech room size discussions. In many blueprints, there are NO mech rooms. "You can have part of this closet under the stairs". More often than not, I'm able to persuade the designer/homeowner/architect, that what they don't need is 200 more sq. ft of storage, but an area that is worthy of the equipment necessary to heat/cool/ create hot water etc. It's really amusing to watch the expressions on thier faces change as they realize the importance of the mech room. In fairness to architects, most of them do try to create a space in the design, it's just usually too small.
Scott, in Idaho

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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,598
    Just got this from a friend in Australia.

    Funny stuff!
    Retired and loving it.
  • Brad White_200
    Brad White_200 Member Posts: 148
    Of Course

    You know I just printed that out and posted it on the company bulletin board.

    Life is like that.

    A lot.

    :)
  • hvacfreak
    hvacfreak Member Posts: 439
    In my area...

    ...I wouldn't understand the conversation or at least need a Rosetta on a particular "dialect". And yes , the math is correct , the intent is often missed.
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    Architects....

    Residentially, the best way to deal with them, is to get them out of the "loop"as soon as possible.

    Tell the HOMEOWNER... the space that we (installers and comfort providers for their biggest investment) need...and let THEM fight with the designers.

    As MY space gets smaller....the bid goes out the window, as it takes FAR more time to RE-THINK a job when the architect makes the dreaded "changes", than as it was given to me initially.

    You have to stand up for yourself. If the changes effect clearances and codes, learn to say NO! Designers are just that. They THINK they know what we're dealing with, but truth be told...don't have a flipping clue!


    Very funny way to teach this, but I think I'll save a copy to have in case I need to use some levity to instill MY point. Thanks Dan. Chris
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
    LOLOLOLOL

    Perfect Dan, I was laughing untill I realised I had no one to share it with. I know my wife would'nt think it was as funny as I did : )

    Scott

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  • Supply House Rick
    Supply House Rick Member Posts: 1,399
    Brilliant

    Taken from one of the great scenes in movie history! Brilliant

    Rick
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    LOL

    I should hire Jack Nicholson to argue my case with the architechs. WW

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  • Derheatmeister
    Derheatmeister Member Posts: 1,579
    NO HEAT FOR YOU!!

    That petty cool,Dan and yes sometimes i got to ask if "they" want a heating system at all!

    And if they can give me a little more room?

    Give me more room or you get no heat and like it!!
    Sometimes i say: well then: NO HEAT FOR YOU!! Richard :)
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