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Energy Kinetis boiler vs Buderas Boiler

kpc_35
kpc_35 Member Posts: 2
in THE MAIN WALL
have for radiation? fin tube, radiant? cast rads? hydro air? Both are fine.... however... If it is a higher mass system the Buderus would be better.

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  • Tom_110
    Tom_110 Member Posts: 1
    Energy Kinetics boiler vs Buderas boiler

    I am looking to install a new boiler in my home. My oil company recommended an Energy Kinetics System 2000 Oil Boiler.

    Another contractor said that Buderas is far superior & I should install it. The price is about $3,000 more, including the Logomatic energy management control.

    Does anyone have any thoughts about which is the better system?
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,562
    They

    are both fine boilers and you can't go wrong either way.Unless either is not properly installed and serviced.I like them both

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  • Leo_16
    Leo_16 Member Posts: 37
    As Bob said

    They are both fine and efficient. Some guys do not like System 2000 so if your service company installs them then that is a good thing. The difference between the two is like asking a Ford mechanic how he likes a Chevy and vice vs.

    Leo
  • Bruce M_2
    Bruce M_2 Member Posts: 123
    Where are You Located

    Both th Buderus and the System 2000 are great boilers. Where are you located? Do you have baseboard, convectors, radiators or radiant heat? Are you staying with oil or switching to gas?
  • Jim_139
    Jim_139 Member Posts: 61
    EK w/high mass radiation

    System 2000 works perfectly well with high mass radiation if installed as primary/secondary.
  • kpc_36
    kpc_36 Member Posts: 21
    it might \"work\"

    but the 2107 control w/ room sensor will reduce energy better and give greater comfort. kpc
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,562
    kpc

    I agree that a ODR equipped system would probably provide a more even temp with CI rads.As far as energy consumption, an ODR equipped boiler will always have more idle loss than an EK.

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  • Ken Field
    Ken Field Member Posts: 123
    What about domestic?

    If you use the boiler for domestic, the outdoor reset won't have as great an effect. The lower the mass the better in summer for domestic. Without domestic, it may be a toss up, but with domestic, EK is my preference. Also how long will it take to save $3000 with the additional approximate 2% savings. Probably the life expectancy of the boiler.

    Ken

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  • Bruce M_2
    Bruce M_2 Member Posts: 123
    Is This a Real Poster?

    This poster has not answered any questions. I wonder if this is a legitimate poster or someone with an ulterior motive?
  • Jim_139
    Jim_139 Member Posts: 61


    Ground control to Major Tom, are you there or have you gone out of orbit. Just love it when someone starts this sort of topic and disappears.
  • Bill_107
    Bill_107 Member Posts: 2
    EK vs ?

    What a great set of posts! We are currently evaluating our estimates for a new boiler (our Tarm has lasted over 30 years!). We burn oil, with baseboard heat, moderate ranch with 4 zones, energy efficiency work to be done asap. Weil-McClain est 3800, side arm about 1500. EK est about 7800. Which to choose? I've read great posts re: the EK, esp from the folks who put them in (biased?). Hard to believe there's a unit even more expensive!
  • Ken Field
    Ken Field Member Posts: 123
    30 years not bad

    Until you realize that it probably was efficient for half of that time. Then as oil prices increased, other technologies emerged to maximize the overall efficiency of oil boilers. I am not a fan of tankless coils. Sidearm is a term that I hope you are using loosely. They were large energy wasters. Currently a low mass boiler with an efficient way to make and store domestic hot water is the best bet. If the EK boiler does that and I like it, I guess that means that I am biased. I lean toward overall efficiency. You will likely get what you pay for. If oil costs $8.50 a gallon 15 years from now, do you really want a WM with a sidearm then? If not, then why do you want one now? You can't afford NOT to invest in efficiency.

    Ken

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  • Bill_107
    Bill_107 Member Posts: 2
    investing in efficiency

    Thanks, Ken. I like the idea of "investing in efficiency." It's the price tag that's got us right now.
    Bill
  • Bruce M_2
    Bruce M_2 Member Posts: 123
    Life Cycle Cost

    You need to think "Life Cycle Cost" not initial cost. The System 2000 will pay for itself in reduced oil usage. You will be pleased with it.
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