Carbon credits?

Brad White_185

The notion of carbon credits, cap and trade, etc. is predicated on the notion that CO2 is measurable (and is the hallmark product of efficient combustion). Because it can be measured (as a function of fuel input and assumed efficiency), it can be taxed. That it was declared a "pollutant" was icing on the cake. Fining the air you breathe, at least on the exhale side.

Certain individuals, (some elected, some not but whom enjoined the elected), declared a value on something that previously had none. A complete fabrication literally out of thin air.

What carbon credits go for is to pay for things which would occur anyway.

As an example, suppose a lumber company replants so many acres as a function of their responsible forestry practices.

They can now receive the proceeds of carbon credit funding tax-free for what they formerly did at their own expense as a cost of doing business and of sustaining the business long-term.

By what authority are these credits given credence? Like any commodity, by whomever will buy them. Gold has value because people will pay "x" per ounce. When sales of gold drop off, the price comes down.

I could declare on the same authority a flatulence tax, payable to me (because I said so and it is my idea). Nigerian scams have the same authority but are illegal because there is no government equivalent, yet at least. :)

When people stop to think about the derivation of carbon credits (voluntary for now as a guilt tax), I suspect the sales will too drop off. Not to be denied, look for the credits to be built into your fuel bills. You read that here, probably not first. But it will not be let go.

troy_8

Carbon credits?

Does anybody understand this? I was at a green conference recently and was asked if I bought carbon credits to offset my flight? Huh? Is this some kind of guilt tax? I was gonna pass the hat if these people were really feeling all guilty about consuming. I could use their money to make my house much greener. And I'll let them come over and feel good about themselves too. Please help me understand.

Tony_23

Troy

It appears you already understand it

My surrounding neighbors are farmers, tree farmers. Well over a million conifers of many species. They could live like kings off the "guilt tax" these idiots are willing to pay. I wonder, can someone feel good and feel stupid at the same time ?

[Deleted User]

As if the World Bank and IMF don't have enough money already, they want more with this carbon tax scam. People complain about oil companies making alot of money, most people have no idea that the World Bank and IMF are making a heck of a lot more. Soon we'll be taxed based on how much CO2 we exhale.

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troy_8

opportunity

Who polices this whackery? Who collects? Who decides the extent of monetary penalty for each offence. I may have expelled some methane today-but I can't find the collection basket. 1 Bean Burrito =how much methane= how much carbon. The guilt is building. Quick where do I send my nickels? This world gets crazier every day. We have a hard time justifying a decent wage for a skilled tradesman but these nutbags are willing to pay money for consuming. All I can figure is they obviously didn't toil very hard for their money if they are willing to give it away to feel gooder. I would love their emails though. I'm thinking of starting dirty thought credits. If you have a dirty thought send me your money. My friends the monks can use it. They are much purer than you. Anybody with me. Cause if I had more money I would have purer thoughts.

Rich Lee

Kool-Aid Drinkers

I haven't wasted my time to substantiate this but I read that Al Gore, King of the Kooks, owns the carbon credit company that he "pays" into. How convenient is that?

Ken D.

Carbon

Hang onto your wallets.