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JohnNY
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Back on January 10, a homeowner in NYC started <A Href="http://forums.invision.net/Thread.cfm?CFApp=2&&Message_ID=375535&_#Message375535">this thread</A>.
After three or four plumbing and heating companies' failed attempts to straighten this out, we finally got the homeowner to agree to let us rip it all out and start over. All that we left in place was the radiators themselves.
We replaced about 400 feet of copper with pipe, fittings and joints we could trust.
We added expansion compensators along the three-tiered, 100-foot-long run and used cushioned Kindorf clamps where it made sense to and left the pipe unbracketed where necessary.
The pipe expansion was creating leaks on the copper joints and cracks on the masonry walls. It was probably the worst example of this I've seen in a residential setting.
The noises were disturbing.
So the first thing we did was to move all the furniture into a corner of the main room and encapsulate everything.
Next, we protected the floors, shelving and electronics.
Then 4 days of piping, purging and testing.
It's all good. Their friend-of-the-family engineer friend (who was very helpful with sourcing compensators among other things) gave the client the thumbs up to cut us a check. Check is cleared.
Piece o' cake.
What else you got?
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After three or four plumbing and heating companies' failed attempts to straighten this out, we finally got the homeowner to agree to let us rip it all out and start over. All that we left in place was the radiators themselves.
We replaced about 400 feet of copper with pipe, fittings and joints we could trust.
We added expansion compensators along the three-tiered, 100-foot-long run and used cushioned Kindorf clamps where it made sense to and left the pipe unbracketed where necessary.
The pipe expansion was creating leaks on the copper joints and cracks on the masonry walls. It was probably the worst example of this I've seen in a residential setting.
The noises were disturbing.
So the first thing we did was to move all the furniture into a corner of the main room and encapsulate everything.
Next, we protected the floors, shelving and electronics.
Then 4 days of piping, purging and testing.
It's all good. Their friend-of-the-family engineer friend (who was very helpful with sourcing compensators among other things) gave the client the thumbs up to cut us a check. Check is cleared.
Piece o' cake.
What else you got?
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Contact John "JohnNY" Cataneo, NYC Master Plumber, Lic 1784
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Heating in NYC or NJ.
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Nice!
Nice to have a happy conclusion- hats off to you and your team, John. (I particularly liked the shot of each man at his battle station..).
Those expansion compensators are semi-industrial but for that long run and the expectations, they are what you need. Anchor, float, absorb.
Too bad there is not much of a heating season left for the Owner to experience the full effect.
Was there ODR programmed? Another mitigation detail but that old piping just had to go, sorry to say.0 -
Its only natural
With a crew like you have and the leadership you show , the dedication you show in training and job preformance, that this job would succeed.
Great job man !!!!!
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Way to go John. You guys are the best. Professional with a capital "P".
I must admit though, when I first saw the thread listing I thought it was you that had been fixed!0 -
Great Job!
John,
A complicated re-pipe in a very difficult work space - nice job. What kind of fittings did you use?
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TGO,
We use Mueller when we can find them and of course Nibco, which are more readily available in this area.
We appreciate all the kind words, guys.
Thanks a bunch.
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Nice!
It's a pleasure to have you in this community, John.Retired and loving it.0 -
expansion compensators
Very nice job John! What brand are the expansion compensators John?
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Rich,
It's this brand, but the copper version not shown, I guess.
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Thank you
Thanks John, I'm book marking that for future reference!
Again, very nice job, nice to see all the detail in protecting the customers residence and personal property.0 -
Good job John, cool to see a nuisance taken care of.
I am sure she will be much happier now. Only problem is you will get a call at 11pm saying their heat is out cause "we can't hear it so you need to come fix it". ha ha. good going, Tim0
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