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\"i'd like to see them make...\"

Big Will
Big Will Member Posts: 395
I do a lot of multi temp systems. I would love a Mod-con with two or three TT terminals with different set points and outdoor reset curves. I would have to put mix valves on the lower temp zones but that would mean the boiler would not have to run warm enough to work for the highest temp zone all the time. It is always slab on the first floor and staple up on the upper floors that have loser demand but need higher temp to work. watching the boiler run for the 1st floor at 155 or so and get mixed down to 110 is kinda frustrating.

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  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    \"i'd like to see them make...\"

    many years ago popular mechanics [or popular science ] had a monthly department called "i'd like to see them make"
    don't know exactly who "them" was; however i would like to see someone make a boiler control system [be it thermostat or timed control] using house wiring as a means of connection [like the old radio shack intercoms].this would give you the advantages of wireless without the battery or interference problems.
    any other wishes out there in boiler-land?--nbc
  • Please correct me

    if I`m wrong,, but can`t you now dial-in your stat setting anywhere in the house by telephone?

    Dave
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    i'd like to see them make

    good idea , now how about this
    everybody here talks about cleaning the boiler but it wastes all your hot water so why not put on some filter to get rid of all the bad stuff and not the water.
    i just love this site and lern so much about my system which thanks to god soon no more untill next winter.
    thanx for the information
    juan piper
  • Timco
    Timco Member Posts: 3,040


    How about a boiler or furnace with it's own built in CO detecting devise that would shut it down if it passed 30ppm CO or so in any way. I guess that would just be another safety devise for hacks to bypass.
    Just a guy running some pipes.
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    co detector

    maybe a co AND CO2 detector with electronics to manage the burner so as to give the right fuel/air mix no matter what--nbc
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    main vent tell-tail

    more items on my wish-list:
    main vents with a flag to show when they have closed up with steam in them[or a thermometer?]
    while they are at it lets make them adjustable for venting capacity so you could just buy the biggest ones and throttle down the ones on shorter lines so that all of them closed at the same time.
  • Jeff Elston_2
    Jeff Elston_2 Member Posts: 20
    pump curve book

    I need a pocket size book with all the pumps and there curves.
    Taco, Armstrong, B&G, Grundy, you know not ALL the models but maybe the most popular.
    I have needed this many times, anyway I end up on the phone with my supply house wasting time while they look it up. And then sometimes it is disputed further, If I had the real data on hand convincing someone they have the wrong pump would be a little more simple.
  • Tom R.
    Tom R. Member Posts: 138
    Building controls

    Major manufacturers had systems for large buildings using the building wiring for data aquisition and controls twenty to thirty years ago. Simple radio signal. Electric utility by me uses their transmission lines to read meters and system voltage remotely. Shouldn't be hard to apply for home use.
  • Brad White_185
    Brad White_185 Member Posts: 265
    Not just the curves

    but the efficiency curves much as one gets on commercial pumps. Flow and head curves are great, but at least when selecting commercial pumps, we always have the efficiency curves to find the pump closest to that sweet-spot.

    Sure, small circulators may seem insignificant, but they add up!

    I am with you on the Book of Curves though, Jeff.
  • Pinball
    Pinball Member Posts: 249
    I'd like to see them make.....

    I like to see threaded circulator flanges. eliminate those "dropped nuts" and three-handed replacements/installs. and one less wrench to carry into that crawlspace!
  • Toddid Goldsmith's
    Toddid Goldsmith's Member Posts: 77
    I'd like to see

    I'd like to see "installers" have to work on the stuff they, install that way, because they don"t have to work on it.
  • bill_97
    bill_97 Member Posts: 172
    Some of us \" installers \"

    are really trying to make it as service-easy as we can . But for the most part I see systems that are shockingly hard to work on . I do sympathize .

    I'd like to see a triple pass oil boiler that has everything in front or on top - supply and return connections , fluepipe and all servicing . I'd also like to see them redesigned to be more narrow in width and depth , but taller in height . Space is always at a premium but we hardly ever have an issue with height .

    I recently got my longtime wish granted - an aquatat / low water cutoff all in one :)
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    Hey Al....

    Grundfos has made a change to their 26-64 and 26-99 flange...where the nut drops right into a fitted boss, in the flange.

    It's nice to only carry the 5/8ths wrench to tighten the bolt as opposed to carrying 2 wrenches to hold and tighten each.

    I hope it falls down to the smaller pumps too! Chris
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    I like that too!

    Finally one control that does it all. Why did it take so long to get this on the market?

    Tall and thin would be very nice for you guys....but I can deal with 3 pass and most of the placements that are available right now.

    NOW, if the folks that needed them knew it....that would be my wish.

    I guess I wish they would make ... a better educated consumer. (Too much to ask?) Chris
  • bigugh_4
    bigugh_4 Member Posts: 406
    Its called a \"Lap Top!\"

    Just down load the curves, amd walla there you go. It'll do so much more than just that, HOW CAN YOU GET ALONG WITHOUT ONE IN THIS DAY AND AGE? your competior uses them on every truck. It'll keep track of all you enter in it. You could even have it keep track of milage, time, location, inventory, and the shortest way home! It could auto call your wife and say your on your way home!
  • bigugh_4
    bigugh_4 Member Posts: 406


  • Nick S
    Nick S Member Posts: 62


    I'd like to see geothermal heat pumps (or air source for that matter) with inverter compressor technology. It would work like a modulating boiler. No buffer tank needed. Oem's are you listening?
  • joel_19
    joel_19 Member Posts: 931
    how bout

    how bout 3 and 4 coil tanks to take heat out for small loops of radiant while tied to solar.
  • JohnNY
    JohnNY Member Posts: 3,293
    Victaulic for steam....

    oh boy! to drill and saddle my takeoffs into a big piece of 4" pipe.

    One can dream.

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  • Pinball
    Pinball Member Posts: 249


    Ok.....Am I the ONLY one who hates those silly little shoulder washers that Honeywell puts on the terminal screws of their controls? :)
  • Timco
    Timco Member Posts: 3,040


    How aboout a 'destroy bot' program that could be sent to the originater of a spy bot like we have been seeing here that would follow whatever path necessary or follow all links the bots post and destroy all of their computers or burn down their homes? Maybe an internet securities division of the fed gov that consists of two geeky looking guys who love to track down spammers and post their info on a main website...You know there are enough ticked-off people with the $$$ to fly wherever needed to get revenge...

    Tim
    Just a guy running some pipes.
  • Derheatmeister
    Derheatmeister Member Posts: 1,581


    The auto adjust combustion is available in europa Maybe we will see this soon..
  • Derheatmeister
    Derheatmeister Member Posts: 1,581
    Auto adjust

    The auto adjust combustion is available in europa Maybe we will see this soon..
  • Derheatmeister
    Derheatmeister Member Posts: 1,581
    unions

    How about unions on the circs ? ,they have these but no one uses them.
  • COPY MY WALL

    Jeff,

    Jst stop in and see if all the ones I have pasted on my wall will work for you. If they will I'll make you a copy :-)

    BTW - Built a Pergola and my hops are already climbing!!!

    Steve
  • Plumdog_2
    Plumdog_2 Member Posts: 873
    I hate'em too!

    How the heck you gonna wrap a wire inside that thing when the screw is too short and falls out on the floor and goes down the drainpipe?
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,807
    o2 trim avaiable here w/ autoflame controls

    using micro motors and O2/ CO flue gas sampling transducers. Pretty neat stuff. Made in europe and been around for quite a while. You can buy it as a retro kit for power burners or Weishaupt and I think Riello you can order with. $$$$$$$$$$ Tim
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,807
    Ron, who makes it and is it manual reset???

  • B & G company

    The B & G company " they can make it but won't listen or do it" How about making the stem on those flo control unit aliitle longer so we can put our wrench to loosen or tighten when needed, instead of trying to take the snap ring " jesus clip" and handle to get to nut with wrench. I've told many of the B&S reps.. They just nods and proven themsleves not getting the results for us.
  • bill_97
    bill_97 Member Posts: 172
    Hydrolevel makes them

    I'm not sure if they make manual reset controls . This one doesn't have that feature .

    http://www.hydrolevel.com/pages/new.html

  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    aerator suggestion

    judging by the amount of time i spend unplugging or replacing aerators in our old 1886 house no one here will ever suffer from osteoprosis or anaemic iron defficiency,so i would like to see them make one sise fits- all aerators which are reversable so you could blow them out by installing them backwards ,much like paint sprayer nozzles[do oil burner nozzles have this as well?]--nbc
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    i'd like to see them make

    i would like a layer on google maps showing the Infra-Red layer so you could see how much heat was going out your roof [and your neighbors for that matter].
    if you have tried "street view " on google maps that would also benefit everyone with an IR layer.
    then "keeping up with the jones" could be a matter of whose IR signiature was most dark [or green]!
    maybe this would have to be an added cost item for google or maybe adverts from various "Greening" companies would support it.-nbc

    here is "street view" for my corner, for instance. when it loads just select "street view".

    http://maps.google.com/maps?q=4002++cuming+st+68131&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADBR&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title
  • michael_34
    michael_34 Member Posts: 304


    Peace on Earth
  • John R. Hall
    John R. Hall Member Posts: 2,245
    A VCR that will program itself

    But then again, that would make the wife obsolete. :-)
  • Home Depot Employee
    Home Depot Employee Member Posts: 329


    VCR?
    Thats dating yourself and your home technology

    Have you upgraded to CD ROM yet?
  • Eugene_Silberstein
    Eugene_Silberstein Member Posts: 349
    Too Funny

    You are indeed too funny Mr. Hall!

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • Pinball
    Pinball Member Posts: 249


    Nah, she won't be obsolete........

    you still have dishes to do, don't you?

    (time to duck and cover!)
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,578
    i'd like to see them make

    a device which automatically hurls litter back at the litterbug cars and pedestrians dropping paper cups,drink cans,mini [and not so mini] gin bottles ,etc. around our property.--nbc
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