recalled poly b pipe info?

Derheatmeister

There is this site that i used to recommend not sure if it is still around its pbpipe.com it also has links and Phone # ..

Hope this helps.. Heatmeister.

Timco

I fixed a drain leak in a house that is plumbed with 'Delta' grey poly b pipe, that has all plastic ells and tees. Is this the recalled stuff, and if so, is there a number or website to go to?

Thanks, Tim

hot_rod

www.polybutylenelawsuit.com/

I don't remember seeing, or installing that brand.

Plenty of Vanguard and Qest went in in Utah. Actually Godwin/ Schultz has been the Vanguard and Delta rep for many years in Utah. Delta faucet that is. They may have some current info.

Vanguard is now a Viega company.

hr

Derheatmeister

Yep, That site is still up..Lots of the claims ran out in 2005..But I think there was something with 2013 as well..

Timco

Thanks, I will check into this for her. The 'delta' brand pipe even has a little picture of a kitchen faucet after the name delta, but the tees and ells just say nsf...(did that stand for not safe???)

Tim

kpc_16

what are the rings...

made of? aluminum or copper? If copper you may never have an issue....kpc

Ruthe Jubinville_2

much in my house

Jerry used Vanguard for many years. Still have a lot of it in my heating system, radiant heating in my driveway for ice melt and in my kitchen and bath floors for radiant.. Rings are copper. almost no problems unless it was with the acitel (spelling) fittings which occasionaly had a problem. Love it here now because I can do any changes or repairs myself. LOL

Derheatmeister

If you have it in your heating system that can be very bad!

The earlier tube Has No Oxygen Barrier, therefore can tear your boiler/Circs/Expansion Tanks apart (Corrosion)

If your system water quality is Brownish, that is a tell tell Sign that this is the case.

If you keep on "Dumping" Iron Components into the System, by replacing These Components as they fail,(and fail they do)you can also Clog your Tubing.. HM

Timco

Thanks for all the info. I will read the website when we get back later. I like to take my wife on drives to the country, but she keeps finding her way back...

The pipe I described has copper rings, and is only for domestic. I have worked on hydronic systems with older pb pipe, and when I drained the system, it was solid rust water...

Tim

Ruthe Jubinville_2

I know all that

but since it has been in since 1988 wiht no problems I am not touching it.

kpc_16

I am sure that....

there is a HX in the system...kpc

Ruthe Jubinville_2

? HX

OK I am ignorant is HX for history or something else?

Timco

HX is short for Heat Exchanger. This means that the water that fills the system does not pass through the boiler itself...they pass through the same componet and heat transfers from one fluid to the other.

Tim

Bruce Stevens_2

Heat Exchanger

Ruthe Jubinville_2

thank you.

Yes it does have a heat exchanger on most of the loops. Only one goes to a radiator down in the cellar. You learn something new everyday. I know that he also used some water treatment that he got at one of the Wetstocks. I know because there is still some of it here. Ruthe

Derheatmeister

Chemicals..

I've found that when I've used Chemicals it just keeped on coming back. so Nowadays i take all ferrous Components out of the equation..

Most of the times i use the TT prestige with Bronze everything i.e. Circs, Spirovents ,Strainers,fill,Backf.and expansion tank from the Domestic type..have been Tearing out the "old" cast iron Boilers that were hooked up at a Straight 180F to the tube and doing this... Have many Happy customers with lower bills..HM.