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Gravity Hot H20 Conversion

Bruce M
Bruce M Member Posts: 166
Does the sytem work properly now? If it does, leave it alone. A properly piped gravity system is a work of art with few moving parts. It is hard to perfect upon perfection.

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  • Jonny Service
    Jonny Service Member Posts: 2
    GRAVITY HOT H20 CONVERSION

    HI ALL,
    LOOKING AT CONVERTING AN OLD GRAVITY HOT H20 SYSTEM TO CIRCULATING H20.LOOKING FOR ADVICE ON MAYBE PRIMARY SECONDARY WITH CONDENSING BOILER.ANYONE DONE THIS?
    THANKS........JK
  • Jim_65
    Jim_65 Member Posts: 184
    The

    gravity system may work well but the heat source may be lacking in overall efficiency. From my experience in gravity conversions to a mod-con replacement is generally in the 30-50% reduction in fuel consumption.

    $omething to consider...
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    If the system is functioning under gravity, fueled by a gas conversion burner and the homeowner is fed up with high fuel bills than your only option is a mod-con boiler.

    If TRVs (thermostatic radiator valves) are installed on the radiators at the time of conversion [highly recommended] then every room will be "zoned" with potential system efficiency maximized. The Vitodens by Viessmann is a natural choice for such a system and in most cases primary/secondary will not be required. Such a system is an ideal load for the Vitodens and its integral variable speed circulator.

    If you don't use TRVs, primary/secondary will be required.

    Properly sized and installed, the reduction in fuel consumption will be drastic regardless of the mod-con used with 50% being quite easy to beat.
  • Bob Bona_4
    Bob Bona_4 Member Posts: 2,083
    if it

    is still gravity, the boiler probably is a 80 gallon capacity or more fuel sucking monster. Why pay to heat that water up before things get moving?

    Go mod/con if gas, something like a 3 pass boiler if oil. Now you have a source to make and store hot water in an indirect tank. Convert to pumping. Maybe zoning? Look in the Library for tips on getting started.

  • jp_2
    jp_2 Member Posts: 1,935
    I don't know mike,

    I have a neighbor with a 3 story victorian, 1 zone, no TRV's.
    house seems to heat fine.

    I can easily see replacing that atmospheric boiler with any mod/con.

  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    Gravity Conversion

    TRVs aren't required but they are they offer the only way to maintain flow rates similar to what occurred via gravity. They also allow room-by-room zoning that self-compensates for solar and occupancy gains.

    Without TRVs, 20+ gpm secondary (emitter) flow is common using the well suited circulators.

    Any well-sized properly installed mod/con will do well driving the gravity conversion, but TRVs allow a directly connected mod-con to thrive.
  • Jonny Service
    Jonny Service Member Posts: 2
    GRAVITY HOT H20 CONVERSION

    Thanks for all the input!Iwill be doing my homework now..........JK
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