Rec`d an interesting email yesterday,

bill_97

Does it work ?

What type of floor surface is above ? Is it the main source of heat ? Supplemental ? Why wasn't the tubing attached to the subfloor , at the least ?

Do you have a link to the original post ?

Unknown

From another great \"mentor\",

And I quote;

Dave,

I just came across the photo you posted of plateless staple up on the wall (attached).
I've been stressing how poor a technique this is for years and would
love to use this photo (with your permission) as an example of what
NOT to do.
Would this be acceptable to you?

If so I would like to credit you as the source of the photo whenever
it is used. If you would like your name as the source of the photo
(but certainly not the installer) I would need your full name and
company name.

Please let me know.

Thanks, Siggy

John Siegenthaler, P.E.
Appropriate Designs
9568 Steuben Valley Road
Holland Patent, NY 13354
phone/fax: 315-865-8903

A very kind man,, and the funny thing is,, I posted a few of these pics a year ago,, but was chastised by you guys as to how great this install actually was!
Could it be that "wallies" are sometimes wrong?
I bet it WILL look that way,, as no-one will have the "guts" or knowledge(except Dan or Pat Lindhart(on steam), to challenge him!

Most certainly I will not!

Dave

[Deleted User]

great install?!

plates or not, it's not even on the floor under-surface. how could they possibly think that heating the joists would heat the floor? what, eventually?

Unknown

Hey Mr. Vickers,,

I am glad you`re on my side and all,, but who are you again??

Dave

[Deleted User]

who am i?

i'm not sure that this answers your question, but, i'm just another joe on the board with some schooling and several years of varied experience in the field. i did my plated staple-up 10ish yrs ago after reading dan's 'hrh - practical guide'

Unknown

Ron,

the original posting?,,sheesh I can`t remember now,, but the last post I included this pic was "Bad Job Pics".
Siggy contacted me,, so I obliged.

mike,,, I was going to email you but,,,I was wrong and very callous,,I whole heartedly apologize to you!

Dave

jp_2

it DOES work

i have seen it work in cold climates, marquette Mi. this was way back in early 90's, i assume before heavy plates?

Unknown

I would think,

of course it would work if the water temp was maybe 200+,,, not much savings on the condensing side though!

Dave

mike,,you OK??

jp_2

well,

I never said it work well

[Deleted User]

dave

i'm ok, but i'm a bit puzzled with; mike,,, I was going to email you but,,,I was wrong and very callous,,I whole heartedly apologize to you!

e me if you wish

Unknown

Always a blast jp,

sometimes even Ray(rjbphd) tries to get under my skin,,but I`m a CANADIAN wallie through and through, so stick that in your hat & smoke-it!!

Dave

mike,,I`m still worried about you,, things OK?...wallies DO look after each other y`know.

Unknown

mike,

if you got my message here, email is not required,, so take care!

Dave

jp_2

???????????

sorry I don't smoke nor care to get under your skin????

[Deleted User]

no sweat

i accept your apology, but for what, i don't know

maybe i'll keep it in a savings acct for me to use for some future insubordination that you may make in my general direction <;-)

Unknown

Ya gotta know,

that was "tong(spelling) in cheek'?,,,my "boat does not float" that way, OK!

Dave