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George_37

The pump on the Ray is a 2 minute post purge pump to equalize the water temperature on shut down. It is the only time it is powered.

The Ray can take any return water temperature from the system and comes with a 21 year NON-prorated thermal shock warranty. NO by-pass piping needed.

George
Mestek Corp.

Timco

I got the call about a dead boiler Thurs night. Worked until 9PM Friday and 7 tonight. Any comments? Suppliers closed today so there is an extra bushing here & there. Mestek is the parent company of Hydrotherm. This is a KN series, 200i. I put the cond drain on just before leaving...need to make one of those cool neutralizers...

Tim

Mike D_8

Sweet unit

I saw this for the first time at AHR in NYC at the Javitts.
This is a sweet boiler for the $$$!

I would choose this if priced out of the big V other than that .....

[Deleted User]

Wow, Where's the seat....

Looks like a Bugati Racing Machine. Sleek, clean and revvin' to go.

ME

kpc_10

I have been...

trying to sell one of these for a couple of months. The Smith rep. has been after me to install one. They are calling it the RAY.condensing cast iron. the RBI boiler control, lifetime warrty....it is heavy.. no need for a by pass. kpc

Timco

The bypass is factory installed between the supply & ret on the unit's right side. Controlled by boiler's controls. I installed a ODR sensor, and the ODR is built in. Sure runs soft & quiet! Fired right up, no leaks, first shot...this converted gravity system has 2 supplies & 4 returns...go figure. All we need now is either a chair or a boiler-cam...and some better lighting, of course! Maybe some spot lights on a dimmer to show it off better? Maybe play the Cars, Livin' in Stereo...

Tim

Rob Blair

I know what you feel like.

Had a call Friday morning, one of two laar endurance boilers was out. We had talked about a replacement in the summer, but now was the time. Put in a Solo 250. Worked till 8 last night and 930 tonite. Got it running and will clean it up on Monday. Will post some pics then.

Rob

Ross_7

Galvinized?

Timco,
Are those galvinized fittings mixed in with the black iron & Copper? I think that I would change that, but that just me. I don't think I would use galvinized on anything at all. JMHO. Different looking boiler though. What is the turndown ratio on that boiler? I didn't get a chance to go to AHR Expo this year, and check out the new products.

Wayco Wayne_2

Wow

Very impressive looking. Looks like a space age robot. I like the read out telling you the percentage of modulation. That can be very useful info. WW

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Looks like a space age robot

yeah, that's what i don't like. the jetsons' stuff isn't my cup of tea. yves st laurent boilers in a man cave? stay with plastic, but how about a faux cast iron cover?

Timco

4:1 Turn Down, Cast Iron Heat Exchanger accepts a 10 to 1 range of water flows. Flue passages 5 times the wall thickness of copper boilers. Advanced controls with self-diagnostics. Proven spark Igniter system with air cooled UV sensing self contained requires no field adjustments. Tru Flow control provides constant clean combustion at all firing rates and vent conditions. Low pressure drop through the heat exchanger CV=60. Whisper quiet operation
Direct vent 3" Cat IV, 100 feet equivalent vent. Small foot print less than 27" wide. Up to 98% eff.

I copied this from the hydrotherm site. Yes, galvi on the install, but got the heat on with just one cold night. Given the option, the customer and I both chose galvi over cold and the galvi will long outlast me should it stay.

Tim

MechTech_2

KN Boiler

We've installed three now, and every one has been flawless so far. I thought the turndown was 5 to 1 (200mbh - 40mbh), but I really like the 21 year heat exchanger warranty. The biggest challenge has been getting a 600lb boiler into the basement. We're installing another one next week for a snow melt system, but the lowest return water temp they recommend is 60 degrees F., primary/secondary with injection mixing I guess.

Al Crawford

Timco

I think you are right about the turndown, my bad. What really kills me about this boiler (and I WILL be making some calls) is that there is NO internet info like install / owner manuals. Nothing. Period. The first owner of this boiler lost the manuals and here we are with no literature on a weekend and no way to get it. I did read the install manual when it was first bought, but I put that with the boiler and now it is gone and I have to find new ones. I can find info on a 1970 Valliant boiler, but not this cutting edge super boiler???

Tim

MechTech_2

Manuals

I agree. We just got the venting manual emailed to us Friday, still waiting for the boiler and control manuals.

Al

Danny Contardo

Steam heat nosey pipes

Ok, I have the fix, now how to apply it. How do I got about pitching 100 + year old pipes in my 3 decker home? I suppose I could start with the 21 radiators in the home!

Anyone do this type of work out there?

Thank you, sleepless in medford, ma

JACQ

noisy pipes

why do you think that the pipes needs pitching.

Danny Contardo

Steam heat nosey pipes

I was told throughout the years that that was the problem. I have changed all valves on the radiators, no valves or bleeders on unit itself. I just tried to put a level on the pipes, the asbestos is to bumpy to get good reading.

Bob Gagnon plumbing and heating

AFUE

what is the AFUE rating on that boiler? Thanks, Bob Gagnon

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Danny Contardo

banging pipes

I will be right back, let me run downstairs and try and figure that one out. I know the first floor and third floor boilers are under 10 years old. The second floor one was installed in 1986.

brb thank you

Danny Contardo

AFUE

1st and third floor afue is 83.5. 2nd floor was installed in 1986 and I can not find the afue anywhere. All Well Mclain oil burners.

Timco

It boasts up to 98%+ but Energy Star has it rated at 90%.

Tim

Danny Contardo

Noisy

Can anyone assist me in quieting these pipes? Steam heat, oil burners, I bleive it is because pipes are not pitched properly. But I love it if someone told me different. I am afraid to raise these pipes, house built in 1890.

Danny Medford Mass 02155

Danny Contardo

noisy pipes

Am I in the wrong chat area? Banging steam pipes is our problem. THANKS

[Deleted User]

yes

you're in the wrong thread

bill_97

I think it looks great

And as we sell to a younger generation the " cool " factor needs to be taken into account . It kinda reminds of of the power suit Ripley was wearing in Aliens . I hope manufacturers of oil systems get in on the cool factor . If that was in my home I'd have to look at it everytime I was walking by .

Very nice work Timco .

Mark Hunt_5

Ditto


I'm with Ron. I think it looks great.

Nice work Timco!

Mark H

[Deleted User]

NO internet info like install / owner manuals

and for the heck of it, i searched, and searched, and searched for manuals and i found everything? for the other models but nothing for the 200i. nothing under mestek, and the only KNs on the hydro site were the kn6, 10, and 20. whus up like dat?

Timco

Speak it, brother! I went to both sites and google. I will make that call tomorrow and post the reply.

Tim

kpc_10

I have one...

from the rep... kpc

Timco

I will be getting them (I/O manuals both) from my rep as well. Were there any programming / adjustments you found necessary? I am connected to CI rads.

Tim

Wayco Wayne_2

600 lbs!!!!

Speaking as a one man shop. This boiler just became less attractive to me. I ruptured a disk just reading the words 600 lbs. Youch! WW

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Timco

It took a team of 5 'hispanic gentelman' to get it down there, and they did a great job!!!Had to un-crate it first. Boy did the old stairs creek!

Tim

Mike Dunn

nice boiler

does it transform into a talking robot? Seriously though what size is that strut clamp holding the expansion tank to the strut. I cannot find one bigger than 8" but the amtrol tanks are 11" in diameter.

Timco

strut strap

It is a PHD 2015 #10 IPS strut strap, if that helps. I just ask for #10 strap. I believe this boiler turns into starscream. (leader of the deceptagons)

Tim

George_37

200I Ray Boiler

Timco: Check out www.jjmboilerworks.com , they have pre-built and charged neutralizing kits, they could save you time and money. Example: 200 MBH kit @ $24.00 plus UPS


George

George_37

Ray

Yes, you are correct the turn-down is 5:1.


George
Mestek Corp.

Timco

George

Thanks for stepping in and clarifying. I like having companies keeping tabs on their products in forums like this one. Helps me know you guys care about what is being said/how the unit is performing. This one is doing very well as we speak. I will continue to offer / recommend them. Is there an on line source for literature? I would like to have a set of manuals of my own.

Tim

kpc_12

just got this....FYI

http://knowsomethingmore.com/

Timco

perfect! Just what I needed to sell a couple of these things. The list $$$ has sure gone up since it was introduced a year back or so....

Tim

[Deleted User]

where did you find

the list prices? i looked all over the site and nada.....

Timco

From my rep. email me direct & we can talk $$.

Tim