Chinese Beckett Burners

Mike D_7

Don't wory, word is they'll fly them in on those cargo jets to be built in China.

They can only sell the one's that get here!

George McGowan

More Imports

Yes, it's true. Beckett has announced that it will start making their oil burners in China.

Now I can buy a Chinese oil burner today for $25. Why in the world would I spend $300 on theirs?

What a pity. The staple of the heating inductry, the ultra-reliable Standard is going by the wayside.

One more once dependable American made product replaced with disposable, impossible to set-up Chinese junk.

They should be ashamed of the jobs they are taking from our brothers.

Carlin, get ready for my orders!

burnerman_2

WHY WHY WHY

i know cost is the bottom line and all co. need a profit but let beckett learn from hershey after they announced they were making thier chocolate in mexico profits went down aftyer sales went down MR. beckett helped an alaska community after they refused citco oil learn from others mistakes we want american products PLEASE royboy

Leo

Where was this announced

George McGowan said "Yes, it's true. Beckett has announced that it will start making their oil burners in China."

Where was this announced? Just because you say "its true" doesn't mean it is. A statement that can cause such emotional reactions shouldn't be posted unless it can be substantiated.

Leo

Bruce M

Absolutely True

Here is a link to Beckett Asia Pacific which was started in February 2007. If you do not believe what was said here you can read it yourself. China is a huge and growing market, please tell us why Beckett should not be part of this market. Would you rather have an Asian company buy a US company. Firestone is a good example of a company from Japan (Bridgestone) buying a US company and we all know what happened in that case.
http://en.beckettasia.com/en/

Jerry P.

Whats' Wrong With This?

Leo asks what's wrong with this...?

Ever try using Chinese elbows from Home Depot? They're tapped at 94 degrees and the threads pull when you tighten them. Then when you're all done, you fill the sand holes with epoxy.

How 'bout Chinese hardware; screws with slots that no screwdriver fits.

How 'bout the Americans who will lose their jobs when Beckett's production moves to Pong Dung?

Chinese stuff is JUNK, Period! Doesn't work -- if it does it doesnt work for long. Takes massive amounts of our labor to make it work, requires call back after call back.

Might as well buy the $25 Chinese burners, instead of $300 ones.

hot_rod

They can, and do make

quality stuff in China if that's what you ask for. B&G has been getting castings from China for years.

It's up to the buyer to set the spec and hold them to it. They use the same raw material we do in fact we send them much of it! They have the same CNC machines, their operators have the knowledge to run them it all computer driven stuff.

If you approach them and say build this component as cheap a possible, that's what you'll get.

I read an article in a mag recently that indicated China is starting to outsource to an even lower cost labor pool for some jobs, North Africa as I recall.

hot rod

Kevin Beckett

Rumor of Beckett producing burners in China for the US

Gentleman,
Thank you for your interest and passion around the topic of China manufacturing.

Beckett did begin an operation in China in 2007, but NOT for production of oil burners for the US market. We continue to invest aggressively in Ohio to improve the competitiveness of our US operation for the long term production of oil burners for this market.

We are producing igniters in China at Beckett Asia Pacific, in addition to our igniter production in Ohio. Before 2007, some of our igniter production was provided by a Chinese sub-contract manufacturer that France Manufacturing had set up before we acquired the product line in 2001.

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify this misunderstanding. All of our employees in Ohio are grateful for your ongoing loyalty to the Beckett brand. We know we have to earn the privilege of serving you every day.

Best regards,

Kevin

DanHolohan

Thank, Kevin.

Robert O'Brien

How Many?

How many CEO's would come on here to address this concern?This speaks volumes about RW Beckett Corp!

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Paul Fredricks_3

I agree

Very professional.

It's a new world. There's lots going on out there that I'll guess most of us don't understand fully, including me. Thank you Kevin.

Maine Doug_69

China Manufacturing

Very big engines for ships as China is one of the world's leading ship builders. I wonder if they use the 94 degree elbows in the ship piping or is it just our acceptance of the US importer's standards like the toys.

"W

Clemuel1899224

Sorry, Mr. Beckett...

Mr. Beckett,

Please do accept my apology for jumping to conclusions about upcoming Chinese Beckett products. I was shocked to hear that a company with such a legacy here in the US would be moving manufacturing to the Third World.

You've set the record straight. Thank you for your commitment to America.

I truly hope I never open an Beckett air tube package to find a little gold sticker that says "CHINA".

Again, I apologize.

ANd thank you, Dan for watching out for the industry and providing a venue for hot-heads like me.

George

targetman

Thank you Kevin

I am a loyal Beckett man. I make Jerry's class every year. I own the AF 2 repair kit. I own the igniter kit. And I always upgrade. If Beckett leaves the US, I'll probably just leave oil heating.

Steve Ebels_3

Kudo's for Mr Beckett

Thanks for standing up and addressing the issue.

On another note, I read somewhere, maybe here, that China specifies pipe fittings for their Nuke plants be imported. No domestically produced fittings are allowed.

Glen

This reply -

speaks volumes towards the interest and respect Mr. H has built with this site. Mr. Beckett's response is much appreciated by those of us that "do oil". Thank you. I had a similar direct response by Mr. Kane of Kane May analyzers - when much needed parts were held up somehow on the boat from England to Canada. After a few emails - Mr. Kane flew them to me. Again amazing responses by those that pride themselves on the product that bears the family name.

Bruce M

Beckett Asia Pacific

I had an e-mail that questioned my statement concerning Beckett Asia Pacific. Here is how I replied
"Yes I saw Kevin Beckett's post. I think you may have misinterpreted my point. I applaud Beckett for starting up
Beckett Asia Pacific. They are bringing American technology to China in order to produce products in China. That is a good thing. We have too many American companies that have been bought by foreign companies. What Beckett has done is quite the opposite. What is absolutely true is that Beckett started Beckett Asia Pacific in February 2007. What is absolutely true is that they have a new factory under construction which you can see here.

http://en.beckettasia.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=29
Here is the mission statement of Beckett Asia Pacific:

Mission
of Beckett Asia Pacific

"By God's grace, we will:
Passionately serve the Heating, Cooling, and Hot Water industry in Asia and North America through Beckett using a strategy of low cost/high quality manufacturing, sourcing, and design capabilities.”
You can read that statement here:

http://en.beckettasia.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=23&Itemid=42

I read what Kevin Beckett posted on the wall but I know you are smart enough to understand that when Beckett Asia Pacific states that they are going to serve North America using a strategy of low cost/high quality to me that means that when that rather large factory is built, there will probably be Chinese made Beckett products. I wish Beckett every success because we now live in a global economy." I want you to know that no matter where your products are made I am sure they will be of the highest quality. I have seen Riello Burners made in Canada, Biasi boilers made in Italy, Viessmann boilers made in Germany, Toyotomi water heaters made in Japan and the list goes on. The bottom line is that your family owns Beckett Asia Pacific and I am sure it will be a class act and a quality operation.

Leo

Not a slam against Beckett

This isn't a slam against Beckett as they are doing what every other company does. What bothers me is ALL the trade, with a country that isn't free. I recently read China like our country is going cheaper and out sourcing to Vietnam another not free country. My fear is this country in the name of a buck will strengthen a potential enemy.

Call me cynical,

Leo

Glenn Sossin_2

Other Companies

It is my understanding that other US companies are setting up operations overseas in markets like China to sell to them, not necessarily to shift production from US for US. In fact, I believe WeilMcClain has already done this or is about to.

If the quality and standards are up to par - I have no problem with a product coming from China or anywhere else for that matter. There are poor quality products made in this country too. The key here - Reputations are earned not bought. I'm sure if we look closely, we all will find something we consider a high quality product coming from overseas.

I'll take a SONY TV anytime. (I know its Japanese - but there close by)

My $.02

Leo

Glen

Glen said "I'll take a SONY TV anytime. (I know its Japanese - but there close by)"

But, are they? My Toshiba Lap Top (Japanese)says product of China on the box.

Leo

Joe Brix

GM built an egine plant in Shanghi

to support local automotive production. Of course those same engines are now sold in Chevy Equinox's and Pontiac Torrents here in Canada and the US.

I don't buy the "we build in the local Asian market to supply Asia" line. There's too many empty cargo ships going back to China by the looks of our trade deficit. Beckett would do this country justice by filling those ships with US build products for export, not selling out our factory workers to cheap labor. Riello and Carlin get my vote. Beckett and Weil are off my shopping lists.

DanHolohan

On the other hand,

knowing Mr. Beckett as long as I have, I choose to take the man at his word.

Bob_102

Carlin Recently moved their motor production to China,I have heard that Riello builds burners in China for that market.until you know the facts this would be unfair to Beckett.

Long Beach Ed

Just Look...

Look for that little gold sticker.

You know which one I mean. When you see it on a product, say "goodbye" to the manufacturer. It means, more labor for you, trying to get it to work and replacing and replacing until you get one that doesn't leak, break, strip, or anything else rotten.

So far, Beckett's fine by me!

helpingothershelpthemselves_2

Thank You Kevin

Kevin ,

Thank You for addressing this matter personally.
I am in full agreement with Dan H . I also have known Kevin for ages and ages and I can attest to the fact that what he says can and should be taken at full face value .

See you soon , Kevin

Ken Resnick

helpingothershelpthemselves_2

Thank You Kevin

Kevin ,

Thank You for addressing this matter personally.
I am in full agreement with Dan H . I also have known Kevin for ages and ages and I can attest to the fact that what he says can and should be taken at full face value .

See you soon , Kevin

Ken Resnick

Leo

Jerry?

I asked, what's wrong with this?

Think you read me wrong,

Leo