What do you think of this....(ME)

ALH_4

There really is a lot of misinformation there. I hate to be rough on the guy, but as you say, some of it is dangerous.

I think that Monday night loss to the Patriots a couple weeks ago broke the Ravens.

[Deleted User]

Check this out...

There ought to be a law.

http://www.radiantdesigninstitute.com/

Thoughts, comments?

ME

Timco

He IS the world wide authority, you know...

ALH_4

Some good, some bad.

Too much bad to say it's good.

-Andrew

Rich Kontny_3

So many

I did thisms that I thought it was Al Gore's site. Modesty is just not in this man's vocabulary.

Rich K.

ScottMP

interesting

He's not selling anything but he sells pre-plumbed systems.

Radiant is not more efficient but one of his systems is more efficient than hot air.

Warmboard is not a good systmes ...

He's seem plenty of failures with Gypcrete ...

Plumbers don't know what they are doing and rely on manufacutures who only want to sell something.

The shame is someone will buy from this guy.

Scott



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DanHolohan

I think

he's a Patriots fan.

Dave Yates (GrandPAH)_8

Merry Systmes Scott

I'm most fond of the water heater section and its links(G).

I always suspected I didn't know what I was doing and all I needed was that confirmation!

However, even though I evidently have arrived at this point in my career totally clueless, I spy a wee bit of advice on the water heater page that is not only dangerous, it's going to set up a nasty liability issue for him should one of those relief valves ever fail and the tank decides to move out of the home via the roof!

Think: P. T. Barnum

We wish you a merry systmes, we wish you a merry systmes....

Hey Dan, after yesterday's game, he might want to be the coach for Baltimore! 12 seconds to go - on the 1-yard line - & he decides to tie the game with a field goal instead of scoring a TD to win?!? Then loses in OT to the team with the worst record?

Mark Hunt_3

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Classic!

Mark H

Rich Kontny_3

Ouch

He is from Wisconsin but lives right next to Minneapolis/St Paul hopefully a Viking fan not a Packer Backer

Rudnae

OMG!

He lost me when he went on to promote bubble foil (snake oil)...

jp_2

dave?

guess I do not see what you see? what happens when any relief valve fails? and who's fault is it?

ScottMP

Everybody hates a winner

Lets see Dan, your Yankees lose to Boston, your football team lose's to the Pats.

HHmmm ... Hey Dan, what basketball team do you like ??

HHmm.. you better try hockey ... but I'd be carefull.

Scott

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Gordy_2

With a name like \"Radiant Design Institute\"

And probably at the top of the web search list. Who do you think the average homeowner will click on, and believe in?

Thats the problem I have with the internet. If you can set up a web site. Name it with Institution in part of it, your golden to snow anyone.

To much information is part of the problem for a potential client doing their own research on the net. Learning to weed out the good from the bad info. Can be daunting, lots of reading.

How many people out there that got a good radiant system have read that thinking they got the shaft by a respectable designer/installer?

At least healthy heating .com is on the same search page. To bad there was not away to get this site to come up on a search right under the radiant design institute.

Thank God I found this site, Thanks Mr. Holohan.


You said it Mark there should be a LAW.


Gordy

Steamhead (in transit)

And people wonder

why I refuse to go to Orioles or Ravens games....

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DSpindler

I don't know if it's the same person but..

Back in 1995, there was a person in Alaska with the same name as that on the bottom of page 1 promoting his radiant systems.
I just found some of my old notes and much of the information looks the same. He was promoting sort of a one size fits all system with a Vaillant boiler. One of my notes said I could get 48 btu's per lineal foot of pex at 140-160 degrees. I only had some Heatway literature for other reference at the time. I had visited with him many times and pestered him with many questions. I still have the $2100 dollar check that he refused to take as a down payment on a system because he thought I would be more trouble than I was worth. Thank God for small miracles. Shortly after that I found out about Dan's books and became one of the enlightened ones that visits this site. This site has provided me with many years of interesting reading and valuable information on many topics. Keep up the good work.

Weezbo

*~/:) Dunno Mark,...seems to me ,

it would be sosmething like the job i just came home from..it is 12:29 Alaska Whale time... oH O! 15 loops spun out of the floor and ceiling...6 cir pumps guy liked 007 IFC's and 3/4 pipe.... the circs were on loops of many different directions...took me about 4 hours to even come up with some way to keep the place from freezing over night ..is 33 below and going deeper ..the TAco radiant Mixing Block is fed off some green pipe off a 200 foot 3/4" loop coil, within a large dump zone buffer tank for a wood boiler.. the RMB was looking for 160 with 139 available....Well, it is back to the drawing board on that particular design....27 F at the floor by the glass sliding doors...politely it is not functional and what a time to find out...right now maybe the 100 percent dow frost will circulate buh i have to think that there is way more dollars wasted than invested within the system no matter how well intentioned the effort.

likely the remedy will be severe...

tommyoil

When they were losers

Everyone hated them too!

Dave Yates (GrandPAH)_2

relief valve

reposition. That takes the T&P probe and moves it to outside the storage vessel where it no longer 'sees' the storage temp. They who modify safeties do so at their own peril unless some 'expert' has advised them to do so.

[Deleted User]

The only good thing about sites like that...

is that they are not the first page Googlers.

The reason I posted the link was because an assocaite of mine who also does RFH had a customer throw it in his face. My associate wanted to know how to respond to the $3.00 per square foot quote that the web site was touting.

I told him to explain to the potential client that there were a lot of crack pot web sites out there, and that if it look too good to be true, it probably was too good to be true.

The unfortunate thing is gullible people getting sucked into thinking that it is not rocket science, and that a trained monkey can do the installs. That seems to be a common thread on the DIY RFH web sites. "LICENSE? You don't need no stinkin' license..."

Buyer beware. I'm really suprised that this guy hasn't been slapped with a cease and decist order from the likes of WarmBoard or the GypCrete folks... Tilting awfully close to the edge.

Proceed with caution, and don't believe everything you read and see on the web.

ME

Mitch_4

Hey Mark

Have your associate show the web surfing client this site..and use my usual..

something like...well..I certainly can't do it at that price and stay in business, but will be more than happy to fix it when you are not happy / cold / lost, keep in mind warranty, and remember the liability is ALL yours. BTW fixing usually costs more than a p[roper install..

jp_2

dave

Ok, I see what you re talking about. but don't they make TP's with extended probes?

Dave Yates (GrandPAH)_8

sure do

but it doesn't note that in the destructions.

jp_2

thats

what I was thinking you say