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Mitch_4

sold the heat manager to Beckett, and I believe still make it for them.

Supposedly they have one for A/C too.

Never tried it. I believe the concept as applied to HWH, but have doubts as to forced air. Boilers have latent heat inthe circulating medium that can provide heat, forced air will be room temp, so unless it widens the set point diffential on the stat, I do not see what it can do.

Paul Fredricks_3

This is a control, like Beckett's Heat Manager, but it works with hot air. Anyone have any experience with them?

They also have a control for boilers. Looks like the heat Manager, but has a readout that tells you how much you are saving.

Paul Fredricks_3

Yeah

I was thinking the same thing. It seems to me that chill between heat cycles would be worse. Unless it somehow interacts with the fan to make it come on sooner or something.

Charlie Masone

I heard from them at a trade show that it kindof works opposite of the heat manager it makes the burner cycle more often. I cannot understand how this could save and it would seem to put more ware and tare on the burner parts

Mitch_4

If that is

true then it would be a waste of a high efficiency furnace, I size em to run as long as possible, The Olsen new 2 stage is just too sweet for this. Even in this mild weather here, my first customer with one is getting 20 minute run times on low fire and the condensate is running like a tap! and it is only 29° out!!


Tis weird logic, I do not want more cycle, I want fewer with nice long run times so that when I am in condensing mode, it stays there as long as possible..

Jeff_92

The HeatManager is made by Intellidyne and for the first three years private labeled for Beckett.

They make controls for forced hot water, forced hot air, steam (commercial only low, medium and high pressure) and AC.

The residential hot water control operates like the HeatManager with the added advantage of an LCD screen reading out the instant and overall savings along with the ability to adjust the set points for newer Euro style boilers to achieve even greater savings.

As for the FA furnace controller you are correct that it works somewhat the opposite of the HW+ control. There is a sensor that is inserted into the supply plenum that will find the hottest point in the heating cycle over the first four cycles once that is done it will build in a 10% “deadband” at the top end. Once the furnace reaches the “saturation point” on the heat exchanger any further burner firing will only force that heat out the exhaust. This is also when you start to see heat exchanges “crystallizing” that will lead to premature failure. Once this point is reached the control will cycle the burner on and off (blower will stay running) to maintain temperature without over firing the heat exchanger.

You are correct that it will increase burner cycling. On gas that will make no difference as a gas valve is meant to just open and close with little overuse effect. I can understand where some have concerns about increased cycling on the oil side but that is the trade off for the fuel savings.

Keep in mind that EVERY Intellidyne control is backed by a 10% savings buyback guarantee along with a full 15 year replacement warranty.

Charlie Masone

Boy

Did that sound like a sales pitch!