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Tom Hopkins
Tom Hopkins Member Posts: 554
I agree 100% except about Viessmann and Buderus,they're not much more than the competitors and in some cases less.Where do you find these wholesalers who deliver to the basement?


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  • Jim_109
    Jim_109 Member Posts: 45
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    3 pass boilers

    Are three pass high efficieny boilers more complicated to install and/or maintain? How realiable are they both in the first year and beyond?

    After reading some of the postings on one popular manufacturer's website about the many different issues homeowners and installers are having, I am concerned about the short and long term realiability.
  • kevin coppinger_12
    kevin coppinger_12 Member Posts: 27
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    As w/ any boiler....

    if installed properly there should be no issues. I have a 3 pass in my home and it has given me no issues. I feel that 3 pass boilers as a whole are much easier to clean and therefore will give you better eff. # 's down the road....kpc
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
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    3-pass boilers RULE!

    This type of boiler is extremely easy to service, and in most cases is a bit more efficient than the usual vertical-flue pin-type. And unless you're talking Vie$$mann or to a lesser extent Buderu$, the 3-pass is generally price-competitive with the pin-type.

    As a rule, we no longer install pin-type boilers unless there is no 3-pass available in the configuration we need.

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  • Maine Ken
    Maine Ken Member Posts: 531
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    Frank, take a look at the VR1. Extremely competative with the other 3-passers. And with some extras to boot!!!

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  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
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    The question we would have

    with the VR1 is- will their delivery guy bring the boiler into the basement?

    The Solaia delivery guy will.

    All other things being equal, that would clinch the deal for us ;-)

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  • Maine Ken
    Maine Ken Member Posts: 531
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  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
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    Well

    I looked again, and for example comparing a Buderus G215/4 with a Burnham MPO-189 in a well known supplier's catalog, the Buderus is noticeably more expensive once you add the burner package. Both 3-pass boilers and first-class products, with very similar specs. Obviously I'm not going to post prices here, but you can look them up.

    Of course, if a customer has their heart set on Buderus, that's what we'll install. Same with Viessmann. I'm just not convinced the brand names are worth the extra money.

    If you have a Columbia supplier near you, they should deliver to the basement if the boiler is one of the usual residential ones (same with indirects too). The Solaia is part of the same corporate family, so it is sold thru Columbia suppliers. I first saw the Solaia at our local Columbia dealer, whose people are great to deal with even if you don't count basement delivery. That's how we got started installing them.

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