triangle tube

tim smith

> The TT is Stainless not Aluminum. And with the <BR>
> single pass design flue passage corrosion is <BR>
> minimized greatly over almost any other mod/con <BR>
> on the market. <BR>
> <BR>
> We love ours. I have 17 out <BR>
> there and not one problem. Good support too. The <BR>
> only problem I have had is getting our suppliers <BR>
> to stock spare parts... Not that we have needed <BR>
> them. <BR>
> <BR>
> All of our bids come standard with <BR>
> nothing less than a Prestige. We refuse to <BR>
> install cast iron sectionals uless it is oil. <BR>
> then offer upgrades to Buderus GB series or <BR>
> Visseman Vitodens. <BR>
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We bought a repair brief case with the first one we bought after several, still have all the spare parts. Love the unit as of this moment. Next unit going is a 175 in a couple weeks. Tim

randy_28

prestige

what is the general consensus on the prestige by triangle tube

Glenn Sossin_2

Great Product

Quiet, relatively easy to wire, has a vertical self cleaning heat exchanger made of 439 SS. Very low head loss through heat exchanger so you don't need special high head pumps like the Ultra. Infact, you don't even have to use primary secondary piping - although it is suggested. Uses the MCBA logic board like the Weil Mclain Ultra, the Dunkirk Quantum, and a few others.

Be careful of the pin type aluminum block boilers. These will plug up (with the aluminum version of rust) over time if you don't clean/service them. I think there will be a rash of issues with these boilers after they have been in service for a few years. As the flue passage ways start to get coated, there will be less conduction of heat, vacuum / pressure sensors will try to increase fan rpms to compensate. That will be the first major component to fail.

I would strongly suggest you read/examine all the various manufacturer's warranties with respect to servicing. While I believe every manufacturer suggests/requires it, the heat exchanger in this boiler is sealed. You couldn't get into it if you wanted to. This suggests a lot longer useful life in my mind.

Josh_10

The TT is Stainless not Aluminum. And with the single pass design flue passage corrosion is minimized greatly over almost any other mod/con on the market.

We love ours. I have 17 out there and not one problem. Good support too. The only problem I have had is getting our suppliers to stock spare parts... Not that we have needed them.

All of our bids come standard with nothing less than a Prestige. We refuse to install cast iron sectionals uless it is oil. then offer upgrades to Buderus GB series or Visseman Vitodens.

Glenn Sossin_2

attache case

They make a spare parts kit which has all the basic sensors, fan motor, gas valve, logic board, transformer. The only major part not in it is the LCD display.

We keep 2 kits in stock plus a display model so if someone did need a part, we should have it.

PS Josh my first line response was that its 439 ss. I went on about the aluminum because I am firmly convinced, this will be a problem area as time goes on.

Josh_10

Oh okay no problem. Just thought I would mention that it is in fact stainless. In my opinion boilers should be cleaned thouroughly annually to prevent what you are talking about.

I did manage to get my spare parts. We like to keep everything that we possibly could need on the shelf for every product we carry. We had a few issues trying to get spare P-traps and a few misc sensors that are OEM. But that is my suppliers problem not the manufacturers.

tim smith

TT spare parts

We bought a repair brief case with the first one we bought after several, still have all the spare parts. Love the unit as of this moment. Next unit going is a 175 in a couple weeks. Tim

andy_21

After the glowing recommend of the TT why the upgrade to the GB? Both nice units, But the TT has the stainless heat exchanger. Just curious

Peter Groenewold

I installed a Prestige Ultra 250 last week, and was very impressed with the unit. I think it has a lot going for it.

My main complaint was the cage-clamp terminal strips. The little plastic terminal depressor broke on the first terminal, and even when using a tiny controls screwdriver to depress the terminals, wires were almost impossible to insert securely.

This was true whether I used 14 ga. solid, 14 ga. stranded, or 18 ga. 'stat wire. They went in hard and pulled out too easily. These seem like a weak link in an otherwise solid product.

Do any of you have any suggestions? Or am I just exceptionally dense when it comes to using fancy Euro-style wiring accessories?!!

Have a great 4th,

PG

brad_14

TT 110 & Smart 50

Funny you mention Euro style wiring because that was my only complaint when mine was delivered. I thought the harness was a bit sloppy and those connectors do seem like a failure prone unit given prolonged expossure to heat and time. I do wireless engineering so I am a tad anal when it comes to wiring. I just routed a few things better and added some zip ties to clean it up. Reminds me a bit of German automobiles they are so damm functional and reliable mechanically yet there electrical design is a bit slopy and hence failure prone. That said I expect the reliability on the TT to be what others have experienced (Darn Good) and you sure get allot of boiler for the money. I am so impressed with the smart 50 paired up with the 110 it's recovery time is awsome.

brad_14

Pestige 110

When I did the wiring to my 110 I was thinking the wiring was a bit slopy and that terminal strip is likley to fail given enough time and heat. I cleaned up my harness with a few zip ties and made sure wires were not in dirrect contact with warm-hot surfaces. Remines me of German cars they are so damm functional, mechanically reliable, safe and fun but they just don't design there electrical systems to be overly reliable. The TT is an awsome boiler for the money and in my research I have not run across to many who think they are not worth every penny and more. Bottom line I love mine and the Smart 50 paired with mine. The DHW recovery time is awsome.

tim smith

upgrade to GB

I don't think it is an upgrade, I think for the money and quality the TT is above the rest. JMHO Tim

Glenn Sossin_2

399 version to come out shortly

There is another larger model, a 399 that supposeldly will be available in August. We will be stocking that unit also.

I have a large home with a pool heat exchanger where we will be using this unit. Don't know status of parts for that unit. I would assume the fan and gas valve will be different.

Josh_10

I agree Tim. For the money there isn't an economical payback to installing the GB. They are so close in efficiency and the TT control does more.

However from a boiler-man standpoint? I would rather work on the GB. It is put together much better. There isn't any repair on that boiler I can't do within 30 minutes.

When my customers ask "what is the benefit of upgrading"? I tell them "not much". You'd be surprised how many still want the Buderus! Maybe it's more appealing to the eye.

Additionally you can't argue that the Buderus requires some extra pumping power. The pressure drop is significantly greater than the TT. Also you can't vary the flow or it will whistle as the fins expand and contract against eachother. You can with the TT.

My opinion? The TT is a better boiler. The only thing I don't like is that it is over-sized for almost any installation under 4000 square feet here in Western Washington. The Buderus does give me a little more turndown.

Wayco Wayne_2

I have no

expiirence on the GB but I think it has a sensor for indoor set back. I know TT has said that they will have one, but I havent seen it yet. I like indoor reset on the outdoor reset. You can make sure you have the lowest water temp possible. It appeals to my Scottish nature. WW

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Wayco Wayne_2

I have no

experience on the GB but I think it has a sensor for indoor set back. I know TT has said that they will have one, but I haven't seen it yet. I like indoor reset on the outdoor reset. You can make sure you have the lowest water temp possible. It appeals to my Scottish nature. I also prefer the Stainless Steel over the aluminum. WW

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