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Codes - again!

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  • Dave Yates (GrandPAH)_1
    Remember the old 45's that would sometimes stick & repeat

    over & over & over until you cleaned the dirt off the needle? Here we go again: http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_6637832

    The problem is, we told them which needle had the dirt two years ago & they're still there - in charge of that department. Kendra got tired of being caught in the middle.

    Then there's the enforcement side. Time was you could call the inspector when you were ready & he'd come on over. Then came the 24-hour notification requirement, but at least you could request a time. Lately, that 24-hour thing has begun to crumble into dust. 36, 48 or even 72-hours is no longer enough time! And asking for a time? Fugetaboutit - you want AM or PM pal? Standing around for four hours, or longer, to wait for an inspector who isn't going to inspect the work anyway? It's time for a state-wide change in how inspectors inspect; how we obtain permits; and a hard look at why only licensed contractors are required to play by the rules. The PHCC has opted out of anything to do with this, although they freely admitted it's a serious issue that financially impacts all of their members and one that should be addressed. I'm working my way up through the ranks in PA's government to knock on doors and bend a few ears. Probably little more than an exercise in frustration, but it's a worthy venture. Nothing ventured - nothing gained.

    Is this how it is eveywhere or is it just this portion of the USA that's living in a Stephen-King-like codes nightmare???

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  • Rich Kontny_4
    Rich Kontny_4 Member Posts: 73

    Here in Wisconsin we would never tolerate those kind of inspection practices. We have a uniform statewide plumbing code which can have local upgrades.

    After 24 hours we can cover our work and proceed. In 38 years I have only once had an inspector ask me to grease his palms.I immediately talked to his supervisor and never saw him again.

    We are a state of high taxes, yet for the most part we get what we pay for. I could never operate under the conditions you descibe. My not often used temper would be in high gear!

    Rich K.
  • Erwin R.
    Erwin R. Member Posts: 3

    24,36,72 hrs. I'd settle for a weeks notice in Livingston, New Jersey. Had a bath renovation a year back. When the G.C submitted the permits, he was told to schedule for rough plumbing at that time because they were 5, yes 5 weeks out. He scheduled the inspection and recieved a 8 a.m. to 4 a.m. time frame. So, here came week five, and no inspector. When I called the bldg dept I was told there was no way of contacting him and that he "should" be there shortly. The next morning I again called to be told that he couldn,t find the house. I responded that the house number was 2, first house on the block. This is the type stuff that deters contractors from obtaining permits.
  • Leo G_101
    Leo G_101 Member Posts: 87
    here in genteel

    greater vancouver, (except for the strike anyway), it is phone one day, inspection next working day. About 1/2 the muni's will give you a 2 hour window, the others don't. Needless to say, I am around for only about 2 percent of the inspections. If we fail, I always hear about it right away. If we pass, not a thing!

    Leo G
  • Paul_11
    Paul_11 Member Posts: 210
    Here in New York City

    I have to admit we don't have those kinds of problems. We do have others, but that's another story.
    We can self certify all inspections if we give them 48 hours notice so they can choose to spot check if they like. They spot check 10% to 20% of all inspections. We can pick the exact time of the inspection in 45 minutes intervals from 8AM,8:45 until 4PM. After 30 minutes, we assume they aren't spot checking and we can leave. The inspection is completed.
    We can fax in our notice of inspection and we can mail in the report showing the results of our inspections.

    If we don't want to self certify, it takes about 5 to 10 days to get an inspection scheduled. They pick the time, but it is an exact time to the minute. Most of the time they are there within 30 minutes of the scheduled time.


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  • mtfallsmikey
    mtfallsmikey Member Posts: 765
    Right now...

    No scheduling problems in my locality, 'cause for all itents and purposes new residential construction is dead.
  • Bob Gagnon plumbing and heating
    in northern Massachusettes

    I never had a problem with inspectors giving us a time and showing up within a day or so, but an inspector in southern N.H. just last week missed an inspection, and the builder, plumber, and electrician waited the whole day. he came the next day. That cost us big bucks. Thanks, Bob Gagnon

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