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Hole in the ground

Ken D.
Ken D. Member Posts: 836
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A customer wants our Plumbing Dept. to retrofit his bathroom with a "Hole in the ground" type of toilet that is used in the Mid-east and parts of Europe. Our supplier is not sure about it and is working on it. I'm sure they are available in the USA, although we don't know where. Any Wallies out there have any information on them and know any domestic or imported manufacturers and where they can be had? We are in the Philadelphia, Pa. area. Thank you for your efforts.

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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,616
    That would be

    a squat toilet. Like this one I used in Milan, Italy.
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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,616
    Oh, and it

    takes a good aim.
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  • Lyle C
    Lyle C Member Posts: 96
    Hole in the ground

    Ken Sorry I've not figured how to do a link but what you are looking for is a Z1290 EASTERN STYLE WATER CLOSET by Zurn . I was very furtunate to go native in China a few years ago but I could not get used to the bombsite . Good Luck
  • Josh_10
    Josh_10 Member Posts: 786


    My wife (who has done extensive traveling) calls em "squatty pottys."
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    Toto makes them too

    but I'm not sure if they sell them here. You still see a lot of them in Japan.

    I wonder if this type of toilet would meet Code here? The ones I saw certainly took more than 1.6 gallons to flush.

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  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,882
    Depending upon dinner

    that could be tough ....

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  • Ted_9
    Ted_9 Member Posts: 1,718
    ohh yea

    I don't miss those. Are they even trapped?

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  • ALH_4
    ALH_4 Member Posts: 1,790
    Well...

    Zurn Eastern Style Water Closet

    Says minimum 2 gallons to flush and it does have a trap. I guess it would be easier to clean...

    All the same, this is one idea I hope we do not import. The biggest design flaw is that there is no tank for stacking the PM magazines, ASHRAE Journals, Easyriders, etc. What's a library with no shelves? ;-)
  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,556


    It is amazing how something that seems so "foreign" to us is so normal in other parts of the world. I can't even imagine trying to hover over something like this. #1 is one thing, but #2...yuck!
  • Brad White
    Brad White Member Posts: 2,399
    Go the full Middle Eastern route

    and spring for the full ablation kit. Hydraulic -or was it hydronic- toilet paper? Essentially a hand-held shower for that necessary chore.

    They have these at Mass. General Hospital (in companion to standard wall hung fixtures, thank you very much) in accommodation of foreign dignitaries and patients sent to the better MGH wards.

    In certain cultures, one hand is used for such practices and is not used for greetings or dining. Dang, I forget which one :)

    Just do not be like Achmed- he is a side-sprayer! :)
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  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,556
    Thanks, Brad

    Lots of images that I'll be stuck with for a while. I'll need to drink heavily as I head out on vacation.
  • Brad White
    Brad White Member Posts: 2,399
    Drink all you want, Paul

    just don't eat too much. ;)
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  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,556


    I'll let my wife know that you said I have to drink a lot. Not that I want to or anything.

    The food just gets in the way.
  • lee_7
    lee_7 Member Posts: 457


    wacth out for the splash. yuc
  • Ken D.
    Ken D. Member Posts: 836
    Squat

    Thanks to all. You would think they would make them wide enough, so aim would not be a big issue. Ahh, for some good old Yankee ingeuity. I do wonder what happens if one has bad knees and either cannot get down that low or can't get up. This customer is an American. Why he wants one , I have no idea, but the customer is always right.
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    It still might not meet Code

    That setup looks similar to the old "washout" bowls where the trap may or may not be completely cleared of waste when flushed. Doesn't look like there's any provision for siphoning everything out of the trap.

    I'd check with your AHJ before proceeding.

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  • Ken D.
    Ken D. Member Posts: 836
    Thanks Andrew,

    I do like the part where sea water can be used to efficiently flush entire bowl. EPA know about this?
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,616
    Cause.

    I suspect that when we hear the cause of the explosion it will have something to do with the torrential rain that we had just hours before. I think enough rain got into the tunnel and onto the steam line to cause condensation withint the pipe. That would have led to some signficant water hammer, and in a pipe this old, what we say.

    Let's see if I'm right.
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  • Chris_82
    Chris_82 Member Posts: 321
    Let's be a little carefull here,...

    There are ten times as many asian people and cultures over there than us. And a floor mounted WC can be found at any of the LI or Manhattn distributers, there are many manufacturers including the american big names to choose from. And yes they all have traps.
  • Ken D.
    Ken D. Member Posts: 836
    Hole

    The salesman says the customer wants it because it is supposed to prevent hemoroids and other problems due to the way the body lines up with the rectum, reducing strain. Any truth to that?
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