5 section beastie and 550 gal. oil tank in closet ( Ron Jr. )

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with that behemoth heating the house . I'm going to ask if we can track the fuel use on this one . I'm thinking this homeowner can crack into the 40% fuel saving range .

I wanted to have the expansion tank facing up , but the circs were in the way . From talking to the servicemen and my own experience the tanks last the same amount of time no matter what way you hang 'em . I took out a sideways mounted tank off a hanging GE a few days ago with a 1979 date code stamped into it . Still held a charge too .

Thanks alot UniR .

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Maybe just a little bigger than a closet

But not by much . This was in Island Park , NY . I've been installing boilers for 21 years and this is the first time I've seen a 550 gal oil tank in a basement . And what a spot to be in - that little bump-out was under the front steps . That's Phil in the 1st pic , wondering why he didn't go to college . They musta lowered the tank in and built the stairs after . About 3 inches clearance on the left and right of the tank , a 2 inch galvanized drain line in front and a 1/2 inch gas line to the right . We were supposed to get that monster out and put in a 275 , but that wasn't gonna work - the 5 section boiler we were replacing at the same time is tucked in the same room to the right . We concentrated on replacing the boiler and will come back to do the 550 nightmare some other day .

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Peerless WVB3

We placed it as far away as possible from where the new tank will go . More than 6 feet clearance once it's in . It also opened up some area to the left for an indirect , once the gas heater goes .

Leo

Ron

You do so well and so much in such a short time. How many are usually on a job?

Leo

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Thanks Leo

I forgot to mention who was there . There were 3 of us - Phil , Sal and meyself . Augie was supposed to cut out the old tank and install the new one , but we had to nix that idea . He stuck around to help us rip out that old mamma jamma .

Uni R_2

Excellent work...

Amazing how tight that 550 was... 2 fills a winter?

Second expansion tank I've seen hung in one of your installs not that I ever notice. ;-)

mark_100

air separator

where is the air sererator,was there no room for it in the budget?? I cant see it in the picture

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The air separator

Peerless has a built in air elimination tapping . Using that with good piping practice and a thorough purge & bleed of the convectors ....... you don't need more room in the budget for an air separator .

bob_50

Idea

Ron, Remembering what a struggle it was removing oil tanks and hearing about the recent death of Mr. Wizard gave me an idea. Why not plug the openings in the tank and hook up a vacuum pump to it and watch mother nature reduce the size of the project while you worked on the boiler?

Dave_4

Big Orange

Anyone else immediatelly notice the Richie Evans photo over the door in the first picture?

Nice job as usual Ron.

Brad White

I am curious, Ron

how much you do in the shop as pre-fab versus in the field? You do so much, so well in so little time, I would love to see a time-lapse video of Ron Jr. and crew in action, really, I would!

There is that old saying, "Good, Fast or Cheap. Pick Any Two", but I have to tell you, "Good" and "Fast" are always hallmarks of you and your crew and you deliver, Forget "cheap" because that negates "Quality" and "Value".

You consistently deliver "Excellent, Fast and Worth It" (in small spaces!).

You get the "Shoehorn and Vaseline Award" once again!

ALH_4

Sparks

Is that an old bench grinder located next to the oil tank? Yikes!

As always, excellent install, Ron.

Tim_41

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Good call on the Ritchie Evans picture!! What a driver. He will always be missed.

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Bob

You saying to implode the tank ? Never thought of that . How strong a vacuum you need to turn a 550 into a big Seal-A-Meal ?

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The customer is into

car racing big time . I didn't take a pic of the other walls - every type of rce is represented . I saw some pics of him in box cars - I think he has a few in a trailer on the property and races 'em .

Thanks B. Tice

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No prefabbin'

Everything is built right on site . We do cheat a little - we pick out the black and copper fittings beforehand and usually bring one box of stuff for the whole job . Saves us alot of time compared to picking out the fittings off the truck every day . We buy our boilers and burners knockdown - people hate seeing new equipment dented .

Thanks alot Brad for your post . One day I'll set the camera up on a job . I'll have to find a way to edit out the plumber's crack syndrome though .

gerry gill

another wonderful job Ron,

you guys are sure a top shelf outfit..keep going..like a boiler Davinci you are

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Uni R_2

Ummm....

And can the vacuum suck the oil from where the tank ripped open fast enough for the EPA inspectors?

After suction was applied and it was triggered with a well placed light hammer blow (like standing on a pop/soda can and someone gives it a small flick), I would imagine many if not most old oil tanks would possibly rip when folding their slightly rusty metal skins rapidly from the implosive force. No matter how small the leak is if the tank skin is marginal due to aging and rust, there's a definite risk of the leakage of tank bottom sludge anywhere a metal crease rips open. If it's as easy to expose a sharp metal separated edges such as when squeezing metal pop/soda cans... they rip.

If people smell a leak from a tank removal and there was no smell before... well that would really take the cake away from the comfort of a new boiler install and smell comfort is as important as any of our senses or thoughts unless you're one of those select downtown substance abuse and alcohol before cleanliness type of people. ;-)

bob_50

Mess

> You saying to implode the tank ? Never thought of

> that . How strong a vacuum you need to turn a 550

> into a big Seal-A-Meal ?



Yes Ron implode the tank. I think any refrigeration vacuum pump would do it. It can't be any messier than cutting it up with a sawzall. I would do a test run on an old 275 behind the shop first, just to see how it works.

helpingothershelpthemselves_2

Also notice the X3 and x91 of Fred Harbach fame on the left of doorway.
Take a real good look and you will see the original Freeport Speedway signage. Look to the right of that and you see one of the first signs for Islip Speedway Figure 8 division in which I raced until the close of Islip Speedway .By the way this year is the 25th anniversary of Ernie Maynor's death which occured on a terrible Saturday night at Islip Speedway. I was driving the #03 figure 8 car ,two cars behind Ernie when he hit the wall in his fatal crash.

Ken Resnick