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S Ebels
S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
Chicken plants..............everyone knows the chicken had to come first. :)


  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    Well, sort of heat as the radiator goes in this corner...

    Dining room wainscott. Just the first coat of underbody, so it's not totally even and flat finished.

    Wall color is from Photoshop. Did my best at the planned color. ONLY way to describe is "red". Have had this color in mind for over 10 years.

    All furniture is moghogany in Chippendale style. Seats 12-14 when table extended. Room 16' x 16' with big walk-in bay. 9' wide cased opening into the main hall. French doors on another wall flanked by built-in buffets.

    Large and original 4-piece wooden crown.

    All woodwork planned to be snow white.

    Floors quarter-sawn oak. New finish will match the original orange shellac finish I found in closets (already did this upstairs).


    1) Goal of the wainscot was refined, understated elegance. Did I succeed or is it too fancy?

    2) Are the RED walls too much? To overused as of late even though I planned years ago? Alternate suggestions? (Cool white and warm white are the only trim options and the floor color is a given.)

    3) Antique silver bronzing for the radiator?
  • Brad White_9
    Brad White_9 Member Posts: 2,440
    Red Paint

    Mike, psychologically speaking, you could set your Vitodens curve down to 0.2 if you keep that color throughout the house. Blue lips with white icicles will make for a patriotic triad indeed. :)

    I have a similar color scheme in my front entry, Chinese Red (Sherwin Williams Renoir Red) with gloss white beadboard wainscot below. In an entry way it works ok but the scuff marks are showing.

    My thought of balance in a dining room is that when seated your environment is defined by the level you are sitting in, wainscot on-down. Would you feel as if sitting in an upside down box? Dark color descending, unprotected to the sides.

    Just a thought and strictly personal preference.

    In my dining room (under construction) it is to be gloss white below with a deep yellow-peach above on the walls and a medium blue ceiling (Sherwin-Williams "Night Image") to bring it down for a feeling of shelter around activity.

    My $0.02

    p.s.: I asked my Susan her thoughts- she likes pinks and reds. End of story :)
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    Well, it is the least over-radiated space in the house as the original burst beyond repair and I had to scavange good sections for use in other rooms. That said, the replacement rad (about 4/7 the original EDR) is consistently cooler than most others on the ground floor.

    There will be plenty of "protection" at the sides as the casings are about 5" wide and cornices about 10" tall.

    Four coats (2x toned primer) and two top coats to get the color I'm planning and nearly as many to change. That's why I'm asking for opinions...

  • Al Letellier_9
    Al Letellier_9 Member Posts: 929

    Nice....paint it white to make it disappear...paint it any bright color to make a statement. White would be my choice

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  • Boilerpro_5
    Boilerpro_5 Member Posts: 407
    I'd go

    with a much deeper red. When you get alot of that color is probably will be too much. Oh course I like deep colors, our 17 x21 entry hall with oak fireplace,open staircase has a deep gold ceiling, deep purple egg plant color for walls, and very deep pool table green for the fireplace mass. The oak wood work is best described as high gloss "carmel" colored with 100 years of aging.


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  • TLynch
    TLynch Member Posts: 19

    My dining room is similar. I "colorwashed" the walls, using a pomegranate basecoat (not a great color on its own), followed by two glazes -- burnt sienna and maroon. All was from the Valspar line, available at Lowes. I like the effect, has a subtlety to it, but still interesting. My wainscot below, while not as fancy as yours, was painted more or less a tan color.
  • Brad White_9
    Brad White_9 Member Posts: 2,440
    You and Boilerpro

    have remarkably good taste for Deadmen in Training :) Pomegranite and Eggplant with glazing. Stunning colors!

    Mark Hunt will give me grief for this, I just know it!

    Mike T.- I was going to suggest a glaze also to give depth and to lessen any monolithic appearance, soften the color and lessen any overhead claustrophobia.

  • Boilerpro_5
    Boilerpro_5 Member Posts: 407

    6 years in IIT's Dept of Architecture did help. Even had several pieces of work exhibited. That professional Architecture degree comes in real handy when working quality systems into older and new structures. Unfortunately, it tends to give you alot of heartaches by what people do to great old homes and you see real well the inherent lack of care in new homes.


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  • Brad White_9
    Brad White_9 Member Posts: 2,440
    This explains

    the care you take in your work. Things we never knew about our fellow Wallies. Cool!
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    That does look very nice and the overall color is very similar to my chip Benjamin Moore #1321. I bought out the paint department of a lumberyard going out of business and tint my own paint, so will experiment. If single color has problems will definitely have an appropriately deep base to try similar.
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    I adjusted the color. For some reason there's a shift from what I see in Photoshop when it's posted.

    Color I see displayed with the message is now about as close as I can get to the actual chip.
  • TLynch
    TLynch Member Posts: 19
    Good luck

    Good luck with it. I enjoyed doing the colorwashing. It wasn't too hard, but really makes the room stand out compared to plain painted rooms in the house.

    I will say this in terms of technique: how I thought I was going to do it versus how I ended up doing it changed greatly after experimenting on a couple leftover pieces of sheetrock!

    I am REALLY glad I "dry fit" that one...
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    I've done color washing and other techniques before and still make test panels before starting anything.
  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    Go with the strong colors...

    ... as for the radiator, it is not that decorative. I would consider making it the same color as the wainscoting, to allow the latter to shine.
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    Not decorative at all, but hard to keep a snow-white rad clean. The bronzing seems to disguise dirt pretty well. Might check to see if anyone locally can powder coat. I have a Rococo style rad that will fit there, but it wouldn't match any other rad in the house.
  • Christian Egli_2
    Christian Egli_2 Member Posts: 812
    Helvetic look

    There used to be an old restaurant in Columbus called the Swiss House. Now, of course, it's gone all German food and it's not the same anymore. And I'm wondering what they might have done to their dining room, it was solid red with the wainscoting. It also had dark radiators black, perhaps dark brown. The furniture was very dark too.

    I like your look.

    I want to wonder about the radiator. Bronze is very nice of course, but would it add yet another color that may not have anything matching it in the room. Maybe if you coordinate bronze light fixtures or bronze curtains, there is something more to gain. Otherwise, matching the cast iron beauty to either the white wainscot or the same wall red might be more streamlined.

    Who says red lip stick doesn't work? It works better than painting everything beige and nailing down beige wall to wall carpet, any day.

    Nice job, but my eggplants are at least as cute as Tlynch's kids. Not to ne outdone here. :)
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    Not bronze. Antique silver "bronzing".

    It [should] end up looking like slightly weathered brushed aluminum and stay that way for decades. Think of "motled Microsoft background grey". I can't hide the rad and I certainly won't cover.
  • scott w.
    scott w. Member Posts: 207


    Have you investigated using guilders paste? You have a choice of various patina's. For example you can spray the rad a base color(black)then use the color (paste) german silver over the base coat and give the rad an artistic flair. It is up to the guy with the brush as to how you want and how much to apply. A lot of specialty iron work firms use this to enhance stair railings& other stuff they make.

    If done right that rad can be a thing of beauty.
    I am going to use the paste on my wrought iron stair railing after sand blasting the paint of done by an idiot former owner.
  • TLynch
    TLynch Member Posts: 19

    Can I at least assume I have you beat in the "family resemblance" department?
  • D lux_2
    D lux_2 Member Posts: 230
    Christian Eglio Columbus ?

  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    No have haven't tried gilders paste. You can see some of my "bronzing" jobs here. Look under "Radiators/Heat/Plumbing"
  • Christian Egli_2
    Christian Egli_2 Member Posts: 812
    Road signs yield to road rage

    Ohio it is! now that we've finally sorted out which the next town is when traveling from Columbus westward on the I 70. Thank you US Congressman Turner for pulling down the old ignominious signs.

    The old Swiss House was (is still?) in German Village. I remember the chef and owner was quite fond of the cherry gasoline they call kirsch. Probably good too for thinning silver (sorry for not paying attention) paint.

    As for family resemblance, I've always wondered where eggplants came from. A puzzle to me. Maybe Columbus.

    If you're from Ohio, Dlux, do you remember any of my memories?. Next town, Indianapolis, give me a break!
  • Christian Egli_2
    Christian Egli_2 Member Posts: 812
    Duh, ask a stupid question

    And the wall comes through.

    :)Simply hilarious.

    Is that purple chickens?
  • Brad White_107
    Brad White_107 Member Posts: 10

    You really mean the rooster.

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