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Dishwasher question

steve b_19
steve b_19 Member Posts: 1
I've found a few websites that present troubleshooting info on household appliances, and sometimes have detailed info on specific models, including exploded drawings and/or photographs. Try http://applianceaid.com/ http://www.partselect.com/dishwasher+repair+repair.htm, and http://www.repairclinic.com/0001.asp . These sites also sell parts.

I've used info and parts from these sources to diagnose and repair an electric clothes dryer (bad control board), a leak in a dishwasher (loose latch toggle gasket), and as a source for a window for an electric oven. The on-line parts prices generally are much lower than local suppliers' prices.

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  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    I know

    The only hot water is in th eincoming line, but I just finished replacing my kitchen. Cabinents floor countertops, and now that I'm done, and trying to get life back to normal, my dishwasher is overflowing on fill up. Is there a web site that goes into "how to" for repairs for this? Or has anyone any suggestions short of my wifes suggestion to replace it completely. :(

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  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    they ususally...

    have a small booklet left underneath that give some troubleshooting stuff to help you out....what brand is it? kpc

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  • Guy_6
    Guy_6 Member Posts: 450
    overflow

    Of those that I have had to work on (my own), I have learned that there is a timer that opens solenoid to begin th efilling process, and a simple float that stops it. On mine, the float was located in the corner of the bottom, about 2 inches around , and somewhat cone shaped.
    I just looked into my 3 YO Whirlpool, and it is in the right front of this one.
    Just remember, to the appliance guys, heating systems can be confusing.....
  • Brad White_64
    Brad White_64 Member Posts: 11
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    Konichiwa!

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  • Jim Bergmann_2
    Jim Bergmann_2 Member Posts: 79
    Most likley problem

    > Of those that I have had to work on (my own), I

    > have learned that there is a timer that opens

    > solenoid to begin th efilling process, and a

    > simple float that stops it. On mine, the float

    > was located in the corner of the bottom, about 2

    > inches around , and somewhat cone shaped. I just

    > looked into my 3 YO Whirlpool, and it is in the

    > right front of this one. Just remember, to the

    > appliance guys, heating systems can be

    > confusing.....



  • Jim Bergmann_2
    Jim Bergmann_2 Member Posts: 79
    Most likley problem

    There is a knockout in the garbage disposal where the dishwasher connects. If you do not break it out with a screw driver the washer cannot drain. It is there incase you do not have a diswasher. Make sure you remove the whole thing.

    Thanks
    Jim
  • John Starcher_4
    John Starcher_4 Member Posts: 794
    Wayne......

    ...make sure the dishwasher is level!!!!!!

    I have seen them leak simply because the appliance was sloping toward the door!


    Starch
  • Christian Egli_2
    Christian Egli_2 Member Posts: 812
    Curiosity kills

    A helpline for the appliances that commit hara kiri, what will they think of next?

    I always make sure to tear apart every new appliance we get just to see inside. That way, when they break, I know what they were supposed to look like. At least that's my excuse.
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    Thanks guys

    It is a Maytag and it has a float on the front left that connects to a micro switch bown below with a thin plastic rod. The rod pushes a lever that pushes the microswitch to turn off the water sololoid. The switch got jostled out of place when we moved the dishwasher out and I can't seem to find a position where it works right again. If I can fiond a picture it may help. Thanks for all of your help. WW

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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    do what i do Wayne,

    have the wife wash the dishes..its good to be the king...when she lets me..

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  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    Two wires to the switch, right? Then it's a simple single-pole switch in series with the fill solenoid. The contacts should be closed when the float is down, open when up. Have someone move the float and watch the rod--they're usually simple and direct-acting, but I suppose it possible that some use a lever mechanism that finds the rod moving opposite to the float.

    Then test the switch to find the closed position. Even if the switch has moved surely you be able to tell the proper position knowing the two things above.

    If three or more wires then the other throw or pole is also being used to control the timer motor/electronic brain or possibly the main motor. In this case make certain you test the correct contacts--you want the lead to the solenoid closed when the float is down. (While they don't use a float, this arrangement is common in Maytag clothes washing machines but I've never seen on a dishwasher.)
  • Ron Schroeder
    Ron Schroeder Member Posts: 998
    Yes Mr Gill

    And I always have the last word in my house too,"" Yes Dear""
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    Found the problem

    The switch itself was out of place, however when put right the problem continued. I then opened the door and removed the bottom rack. I poured water in with a pitcher, so I could watch at which point the water started leaking. The water started leaking before I could fill the bottom enough to raise the float, for the gasket was leaking at the side bottom. I will try to replace it and see if I can save the appliance. Thanks again for your suggestions and help. WW

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  • ttekushan_3
    ttekushan_3 Member Posts: 961
    just get one of these

    Looks like this would do the trick:

    Terry T

    steam; proportioned minitube; trapless; jet pump return; vac vent. New Yorker CGS30C

  • Stan W_2
    Stan W_2 Member Posts: 15
    Dishwasher flooding

    1) The drainage hose that is attached to the dw needs an inverted U loop up near the top of the dishwasher, just a couple of inches below the top of the dishwasher, then aimed down to the drain pipe inlet and or p-trap. This loop prevents dishwater / and sewage gases backing up into the dw. If you don't have an inverted U loop on the dw drainage hose, (near the top of the dw), the drainage tends / may back up into the dw, either upon the first usage or sometime in the life span of the dw.
    Some models already have the drainage hose looped ( inverted U ) attached to the dw, others you have to create the inverted U loop.

    2)Described by others:There is a knockout in the garbage disposal where the dishwasher connects. If you do not break it out with a screw driver the washer cannot drain. It is there incase you do not have a diswasher. Make sure you remove the whole thing.

    3) Float problem as described by others.
    4) Drainage pump of dw is defective / or leeks.
    5) drainage hose is plugged up with something.
  • Stan W_2
    Stan W_2 Member Posts: 15
    Dishwasher flooding

    If it is leaking under the motor/ pump replacing the gasket,may do it. Tighten the casing on gasket may work, if it does not hold it may ruin your wood floor?

    How old is your dw? If it is 10 years old, then replace it,
    An appliance guy would charge 2, 3 hours to repair it.
    ( $250 - $350 ) maybe less if he doesn't have to remove and reinstall it. Provid the Appliance guy the model, make,serial number, and part number. OR
    Put this repair money and time towards a new $500 dw.
  • Stan W_2
    Stan W_2 Member Posts: 15
    Dishwasher flooding

    If it is leaking at the bottom of the door at the gasket,
    remold the gasket, if it can be.
    2 remove gasket and replace it with a new one.
    3 remove gasket and flip it , and reinstall.

    Also level it by opening door 90* and putting a level on it, and adjusting the legs to level it.


  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,600
    Fun thread!

    I wonder how the Appliance Repair professionals would view this. This one's a keeper. ;-)
    Retired and loving it.
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    Dishwasher fixxed and running

    The truth of the matter is I replaced the gasket and it still leaked. I got my strongest reading glasses and a droplight so I could see better, what I might be missing. It turns out 4 months ago when I replaced a leaky drain hose I had to take off the front bottom panel to get to it. When I was done, I had trouble getting the screws to the panel to line up. Being an experienced mechanic I had an idea. I went out to my truck and got some longer sheet metal screws so it would be easier to line up the panel with the screw holes. Worked like a charm........except, unbeknownst to me, I had just run the screws into the plastic resevior of the dishwasher. D'OH!!! With the screws in it didnt leak. When I took the cover off to move it for the Kitchen remodel. My mistake was brought to bear. I had to laugh. I covered the holes with silicone and tried the dishwasher out the next morning. Worked like a charm. Hairy Homeowner strikes again. :) WW

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  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    I know how that feels...

    ... I recently incapacitated our dishwasher with a chicken bone when it slipped past the filters and got stuck in the drain pump impeller. Normally, that should not have been possible, except, of course, if you happen to be doing a PM cleaning the filters and the bone makes it into the inner sanctum once they have been removed.

    Moral of the story: Not only clean the filters, also clean all the areas around the filters to catch anything you may have missed visually. The bone blended into the dishwasher interior rather nicely, for example. It's also another illustration of how no good deed goes unpunished. Oh well.
  • Matt Clina
    Matt Clina Member Posts: 90
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    I have referred to the Samurai Appliance guy many times. He has kept me from having to buy a new clothes dryer on several occasions.

    Between the Samurai Appliance guy, and the detailed, exploded parts diagrams available on the Sears website for nearly every appliance, I have gotten pretty good at fixing the washer and dryer.

    I leave the heating system to the professionals, though.
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