Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.
If our community has helped you, please consider making a contribution to support this website. Thanks!

3 zone boiler and heater changeout

Options
Scott04
Scott04 Member Posts: 68
Ron,

If I get an install in a basement I can stand up in, I'll wrestle the digital camera from my wife and post some pictures!

The last one we did was the W/M ultra as a warranty for a cracked Gold. Had a good basement, but without a major repiping job, it's nothing to be proud of. BTW, we did NOT install the original boiler, and since it was under warranty the HO wanted as little expence as possible. I must say that with the front cleaning of the Ultra, it will be much easier to service! We just have to crawl under the pipes to get to the smokepipe! Beats squeezing between the pipes trying to clean it from the top.

Scott

Comments

  • This install

    was done by Kenny , Sal and myself today . If I was sent with anyone other than them 2 we woulda never got done in one day . This Utica Starfire crapped out a few days ago . It had 3 zones of heat , all piped behind the boiler . I'm glad they left the old boiler so far off the back wall .
  • The homeowner

    decided to go ahead and get rid of the old Ford heater with the leaking boiler . We installed a Burnham V84 and Alliance indirect heater . Hard to see , but we have 4 Taco circs on that header pointed back to the wall . There's plenty of room to pipe and wire them - My 250 lb. frame was in there doing it .

    This combo has an amazing recovery time . From startup , the boiler heated the indirect in less than 10 minutes .
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    I've been waiting

    I've been waiting to see some more of your works' of art!! How have you been? Haven't seen you on lately and was begining to worry you were stuck in a corner some place..:o Keep up the good work! Dam everyone of those pipe's look's perfect. You guy's have this to such a science...
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,584
    Superb!

    As usual,whatever happened with the black ell on the relief blowoff line?

    To Learn More About This Professional, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Professional"
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    Setting the standard again!

    nice work. This is similar to one Gordon and I started today. I hope ours measures up!

    To Learn More About This Professional, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Professional"
  • David Sutton_6
    David Sutton_6 Member Posts: 1,079
    Neat , Very neat!

    Looks clean and neat, now thats how its done!...David

    To Learn More About This Professional, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Professional"
  • Can't wait

    to see your pics , Frank . Thanks for the compliment .
  • Yeah , forgot about that one

    Kenny went back there and changed the nipple and ell to brass . It is only one inspector who specifies this - the same inspector who intially failed a drop header on me ....

    Thanks alot Robert .
  • There are 2 or 3

    pipes that aren't exactly square , but you would not believe how hard it is to get ANY FITTING on this oversized Mueller pipe we have to work with . Kenny had to see his doctor today . He's filing a comp claim becuase he can't bend his wrist without bad pain . I can guarantee fighting every fitting on every pipe has a little something to do with it . I'm starting to have the same pains , in both wrists .

    Oops , got carried away for a sec there . I read your question in another thread David . I'll drop an email to a friend of mine who is part of Oil Heat Cares to see if there's a steamer we could install . Or maybe something else if you're interested . Let me know what month is good . Thanks alot David for the compliment and for helping a needy family .
  • Haven't been taking many pics

    Still installing a good clip of berlers , but nothing worth breaking out the digital for . We're supposedly replacing a BIG steamer and hot water boiler for a Lutheran church in the near future , that'll be a good one I hope . Thanks alot Lchmb . How's things going for you up north of here ?
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    umm

    I can some it up with just one word!! WET...LOL it's been a lousy spring so far. 18" of rain in 2 months...Not as much fishing as I would hope and only put 1500 mile's on my new bike. But it's still better than -30 and snow anyday. Your boiler install's make my day though! Make sure to keep us informed of the church job. Now how will you out due the job you did on the last big boiler job? :)
  • Scott04
    Scott04 Member Posts: 68
    Looks good!

    Nice job!

    I have a couple of questions though.

    Is there a service switch on the boiler itself that I'm not seeing, or just the one on the back wall?

    And the second question is: is there a thermal switch that isn't in the picture?

    Also, isn't the oil line supposed to be coated or sleeved when it is in contact with the cement floor?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking your work in any way, just curious!

    Scott
  • jackchips_2
    jackchips_2 Member Posts: 1,337
    Also

    very nice.

    Jack
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,584
    Ron

    Have the powers that be ever considered Pro-Press? No cleaning pipe and fittings and they slip on easy as can be. No solder,flux,torch etc. They're not cheap but neither is a comp claim.

    To Learn More About This Professional, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Professional"
  • Hey Scott

    Good to hear from you . I follow and enjoy your posts at Firedragon's website . I'm glad to see you over here too .

    I was thinking about putting the switch on the boiler , I know codes require that with a receptacle for a plug . But Sal beat me to the punch and threw it on the wall . No biggie - the burner has a plug in end that can be yanked out in an emergency .

    No thermal switch is required where we work . I've yet to see one in any house on Long Island . We do install a Firomatic valve on the oil line .

    Some inspectors require the oil line to be cemented , but we don't do it when the line is semi-protected between the boiler and heater . Sometime we run the line right beneath the boiler jacket .

    Thanks man for the compliment and questions . Any chance you can take some pics of your jobs and post em here ?
  • Propress ?

    I highly doubt it . I don't know of any supply house on Long Island that has the fittings available yet . Hell , alot of them don't stock pex yet .

    I was in Home Depot the other day , I thought I'd try a fitting on a pipe . The 3/4 tee slipped on to the Mueller pipe no problemo .
  • Thank you Jack

  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    Nice job Ron.

    Glad to hear you got the regular crew for it too ! (that is my new "secret wish"...to have a crew and get these things knocked out by the deadline, without sweating profously over it, and/or being left by myself!)

    Nice to see that old Ford H2O heater gone. What a piece. I've installed ALMOST as many as I've taken out....to date. Chris
  • Robert O'Brien
    Robert O'Brien Member Posts: 3,584
    Blackman

    is supposedly bringing on the Elkhart line of press fittings,Tash stocks Viega and Elkhart. AF in Hicksville has Viega

    To Learn More About This Professional, Click Here to Visit Their Ad in "Find A Professional"
This discussion has been closed.