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Panel Radiator Mounting

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RPrice
RPrice Member Posts: 3
Anyone familiar with the mounting of these radiators? Pictured are the Hardware and Rads....Nice stuff, been powder coated and ready to hang soon...Unfortunately I didn't take them off the wall! Any info would be great....check out the ARCO Rococo Rads too :-)

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  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
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    I can't find that bracket in my library or "The Library" at the wall.

    Have an idea, but need to ask a couple questions.

    1) Is there a second hole in the projecting part of the bracket? I see one right below that little shelf that's riveted to the projection. Is there a second hole directly below?

    2) Try putting the bolt through the second (hidden in the photo) hole, then up through the top hole. Put that odd little sliding piece on the bolt in the direction shown in the photo. Does the side of that odd piece that goes out and turns down fit over the front of that little shelf riveted to the bracket?

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    If all this works like I'm thinking, the gaps between radiator sections should sit on those projections (obviously the main bracket bolts to the wall via the adjustment holes). Probably four brackets? If so, I'd assume they go both above and below the middle section.

    Then that last piece will go on the bolt hooking over the round part of the horizontals.

    Problem with this is that I'm not seeing how to tighten the bolt. The weight of the radiator should force odd bracket into a bit of an angle preventing the bolt from slipping or turning, but I'm not seeing how to get back into the radiator to tighten the nut on top of the "hook".
  • RPrice
    RPrice Member Posts: 3
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  • RPrice
    RPrice Member Posts: 3
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    Hey Mike Thanks....somewhat got them to work that way, but only with the rad turned sideways (?) (the air vent should be on the top i thought)so I assume the orientation is correct... we'll spend a few minutes pondering tommorow on it again...
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
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    Sideways? So the "hook" was at the point where the sections join?

    Is this a steam rad converted to hot water? If so, the vent location looks about right for a 1-pipe steam air vent. Forget that--it's too high or too low. I see the tap location for 1-pipe steam air vents on the sides.

    With the rad oriented as shown in the photo is the bolt too short for the "hook" to loop up and over the horizontal element right above the gap between sections and between the verticals?
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,113
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    Long time

    It's been a very long time since i have seen those type of rads and when i did it was usually always at a older commerical buildings and they where usually always half way hanging off the wall but if memory serves me right there where usually2 of those brackets lagged with the welded angle piece facing outward the curved spacer piece would lag thru the bottom mounting hole on the wall bracket the top bracket hole would alrerady be lageg in .There was always some addition curved bracket pieces that would hold the top portion of the rad to the wall .Most of all the places i had seen them in where of brick construction with old lead sheilds for the lags .Hope that helps i really had to try to remenber so old stuff i've seen .Peace and good luck clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Daniel_3
    Daniel_3 Member Posts: 543
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    Wall rad

    Hi RPrice,

    Do a search for "wall rads" and you'll find some information concerning this that I had posted a while back. This was for 1 pipe steam. It seems you will using these rads for hot water. If steam, the rads cannot be placed with the tubes horizontal. If hot water it has to be orientated as shown in the photo unless there are tappings bushed on the opposite side. If you find a 1/8" tapping on the longer side perpindicular to the tubes then you can place a bleeder as such for a hot-water application.

    Concerning the bracket: It seems that the small hook is most likely placed to manage the top portion of the radiator(s). How many brackets do you have? They seem to be manufactured at a later date and not original to those rads. You could use just two and then they should handle the weight. The portion facing up in the picture goes against the wall. Those rads could be about 22" tall a piece and the topmost radiator section would sit in between the lips that are facing down in the bracket picture. The extra curve at the end could be extra support against the wall. The radiator sits on the nt threaded screw and is snugged with the nut while the hook manages the top.
  • Tim_41
    Tim_41 Member Posts: 153
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    blocking

    Don't know if the sheetrock is all up,but if you can get some good blocking in the wall to help support them that would also help.
  • Daniel_3
    Daniel_3 Member Posts: 543
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    Correction RPrice ..

    Check under "Long-Gone manufacturers" in the Library and then look on pages 37-39 in the "The Complete Line of the US Radiator Corporation". You will see that the bolt goes through the "bump" inferiorly and then the hook attaches to that bolt with the nut facing up to hold the bottom. You'll need another bolt for the top portion to snug it up.
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