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Is this real? Or??

Nearly every account of similar (electrolysis on "the fly") claims that little, and in some cases no, outside source of electricity is required when operating a vehicle.

Explanations, when given, often claim something along the lines of the gas produced being a "special" or "new" state of water that's not really distinct hydrogen and oxygen and not really water. The implications seems to be that it takes less energy to create this state of water than is given off when it burns and reverts to liquid water. The only way I can think of that this wouldn't violate physical laws is if the absolute energy originally contained in the water comes into play with the "new" water recovering this energy from the environment... Sure seems far-fetched.

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  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    Appears to be legit.

    Sounds rather like the "Brown's gas" welders.

    Supposedly there are numerous similar cars and devices that have been patented over the years. Nothing at all unusual for such things to get an initial media "splash" and then disappear. Inventors generally claim that they're ignored or threatened. Some claim to have sold their patent rights to major automakers only to have them "buried". Others claim that the government invariably rules them hazardous or impractical.

    If you search you can find numerous legitimate media accounts of similar devices.

  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    Maybe Not So Far-Fetched???

    Think of the claims when that gas is used for welding. Relatively cold until it comes into contact with physical objects. Then almost "sucking" the energy out of that object and concentrating it near the flame. Hmmm.....
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    Is It Finally Time?

    Many quite legitimate inventors & researchers have long claimed that technology capable of replacing much of our fossil fuel consumption has long existed. Suppressed by industry while being exploited by government. Space suits come to mind for to work as NASA says for the length of time they claim, they seem to be relying on "unknown" technology.

    The US auto industry is getting awfully close to the edge of disaster. Our "intervention" that was always claimed to be partially motivated by ensuring oil supplies from "friendly" nations seems way off the mark. Americans are screaming about the price of gas.

    Political party in power is quite worried that their "revolution" will be short-lived unless they actually do something.

    President makes fantastic claims regarding energy in his last state-of-the-union speech.

    Rather odd energy-related news items appear on Fox News which [seems] to have a "preferred" relationship with the party in power.

    Maybe--just maybe--our government has deemed it time for revolutionary change in the way we collect and utilize energy.
  • Aidan (UK)
    Aidan (UK) Member Posts: 290
    Scam

    A scam I think, but I hope someone will be able to tell me otherwise. If it's too good to be true, then it usually isn't.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HHO

    Check the links to other HHO sites.

    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=56705
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    I heard nearly that exact clip on either Fox News Channel or CNN (not sure which I was listening to but think it was Fox) quite recently once during the morning while doing a big mail job. Had the TV news on for "noise" during such boring work but did not see. Meant to follow-up but it slipped my mind until this reminded me.

    Believe it was on May 24th, but it's possible it was during the first week of May as I had an extra job that month.

  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    See this link

    Definitely broadcast on Fox News Channel. Did you notice how US government, industry and military are already involved? Passed government "tests". Hummer (General Motors) use.

    If you search, you'll find that this is FAR from the first such claim and they preceed "Brown's gas" as well.



  • Robert O'Connor_3
    Robert O'Connor_3 Member Posts: 272
    A grain of salt on this one

    I followed the link and this technology looks like it will make this guy rich....but:

    The clip says the guy is building a system for the gov't using a Hummer. His first prototype a Ford Escort. Hummers are diesel, and Escorts are gasoline-fired. I've gotta imagine the two applications are worlds apart. I've seen what happens to modern diesels when they are run on gas (lots of white smoke indicating that a very expensive engine is quickly dying)I can't imagine that the fuels are interchangeable.

    I know multi-fuels were used in duece and a half's and five ton trucks in the 40's-60's and they could run on #2, gasoline, K1, and sometimes JP2 & JP4 but these new diesels rely on the lubricity of diesel fuel to keep the tighter tolerances injectors and pumps from wearing out.

    Just a little overthought counterpoint here.
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