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bob_50

doing some hydrogen pipeing at a chemical research facility and got to thinking. Water, hydrogen and oxygen should burn like gang-busters. I asked a chemist what's up. He said, water is the ASH of a hydrogen oxygen fire.

Joseph T

New Fuel

I just came across this and thought it would be interesting to look over. www.energyoptions.com/tech/browns.html More information might be found under Browns Gas or HCC. He started with creating a safer welder but may have stumbled on to a serious invention.

Matt Clina

This is BS

They think that if they use the word "stoichiometric" enough times, that you'll believe anything.

Joseph T

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I kind of thought it was bull as well but I saw a news clip from fox news with this guy welding away with a welder using water as the fuel source.

Ron Schroeder

It's not using water as a fuel, it is using electricity (and a lot of it) to break apart water into hydrogen and oxygen and then burn the hydrogen and oxygen. There are losses in the process. No free energy.

Mike T., Swampeast MO

Here's some info on Brown's Gas

A mixture of two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen is a dangerous combination but it definitely produces stoichiometric combustion. Calling that mix of gasses another "state" of water is the sort of thing that makes me extremely skeptical.

The "implosion" thing comes from the fact that the gasses occupy MUCH more space than the water produced when they recombine--remember it gets many more liters of "Brown's gas" than the water that's simply separated by the application of an electric current.

Keith_17

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There are always losses in energy when converting from one type to another, the reason fossil fuels are so useful is because time, temperature and pressure have already done the hard work. We can just come along with a bucket and enjoy the good stuff. We should be using renewable resources like corn, wind, wood, etc that can regenerate at a predictable level. Supply wouldn't fluctuate and things would be more stable.