oil boiler

Al Letellier_9

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longvar

what boiler/burner should I get?

Hello,
I live in Maine and will be replacing my system this summer. Somehow, I've managed to get 4 quotes and each one has confused me more.

The ones I am considering are:

Bederus G115 with Riello burner
Biasi boiler with Riello burner
NY Thermal 3 triple pass with Becket or Riello burner (my choice).

The fellow who quoted the NY Thermal quoted the Riello as well for about 8-1200 more, but said it wasn't worth it. I also had a quote for a Peerless, but wasn't too happy with the company in general.

We have a 1900 sq ft home with 3 or 4 zones.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Steamhead (in transit)

Boilers are all good

and all have their proponents. What you want is a top-notch contractor. Have you tried the Find a Professional page of this site?

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Nick L. in Vt

ya, what steamhead said

best advice, go with the best professional, don't sweat the materials. it's the skill and integrity of the installer. buderus is cool though. like energy kinetics too.my 2cent




They call me "Hot Pipe"

S Ebels

In the hands of a craftsman

A Riello is practically a fire and forget burner. Do your annual maintenance and let 'er rip. AFA the boilers you mentioned I lean toward the Buderus mainly because it's what I have experience with. All good I might add.

The comments regarding getting a true craftsman instead of a run of the mill installer couldn't be more correct. The success and efficiency of your system depends on his skill and knowledge way more than the equipment you select.

Any of the quotes contain Outdoor Reset controls or say anything about isolation valves? Did any of the guys do a heatloss calc for you oir measure up your baseboard/radiators? Those are clues as to the type of guy you're dealing with.

BTW, I don't know what burner comes standard on the NY Thermal unit but 8-1,200 additional for a Riello not normal around here. Most of my suppliers don't even get close to that on a Beckett/Riello upgrade.

longvar

I mis-stated that the 8-1,200 was for the Riello - I meant it was that much more for the Bederus over the NY Thermal. For the burner he said the Riello and Beckett were about the same price and I could choose either. He said that the Riello is designed for European fuel which has less sulfur - while the Becket is U.S. so more used to those fuels. Of course, that could change if the U.S. starts to use the sulfurless oil. He leaned toward the Beckett - said it had a higher voltage spark and less likely to fail.

The person I am leaning toward also did include the outdoor reset control and did heatloss calcs. I'll ask him about isolation valves - the quote only mentions zone valves (I assume these are different?)

Leo

Comfort

Base your choice on three things, 1- Who will service it and are they comfortable with the brand? 2- Are you comfortable with the installing company? 3- If the first two mean something last is price, if not out of wack with other bids go with the contractor from the first two questions.

Leo

S Ebels

ISO valves

The system should be assembled and installed in such a manner that any component that can fail (IE: zone valves, circs, air scoops and eliminators, feed valves, expansion tanks etc.) is able to be isolated (valved off) and replaced without having to drain and repurge the entire zone or system. It will pay back many times over the life of the system not only in terms of $$.$$ but also headaches and aggravation.

Riello's digest fuels of any sulfer content equally as well as any other brand. The issue with sulfer is in the corrosive residue it leaves behind in the boiler. I long for the day when the US is all low sulfer. period.

Joe Brix

I don't think

you see many of NY Thermal's oil boilers down in the states. You're close to the Canadian border so you might have a distributor up there. The Odossey is their 3 pass CI boiler. I've never hear good or bad on their oil products. Buderus and QHT, the importer for Biasi are all up in your neck of the woods. Biasi has had the Vega line in this country for a number of years already. As said, go with the contractor that stands behind the product.