Visio

Wayco Wayne_2

seeing drawings from other contractors here on the Wall made from Visio and am interested in purchasing the software. Which level do you recommend. I saw a standard and a professional level. Also, how do you get pictures from other sources. I am looking at a picture form tekmar that someone used in making a wiring diagram. Does it come with clip art for boilers and such or do you have to import them from somewhere, and if so from where? Thanks for any information. WW

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rich pickering

Go with the pro. You can download a demo copy from microsoft. tekmar stencils are on their website. Nice thing about visio is that you can ungroup an object and use the parts that you want. Easy to make your own objects.http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/FX101321101033.aspx?pid=CL100570421033

Paul Rohrs_7

Standard

would be my recommendation, but you need to determine what you want to accomplish. Standard has everything I have needed and I am still learning new things everyday.

Uponor, Tekmar, Taco, Danfoss all have very nice stencils available. Plus, you CAN make your own. The investment of time is key.

If you need anything, let me know. You also need to give yourself time. You will become proficient very quickly if you give yourself that time.

Regards,

Paul

Uni R_3

Simple...

Would you ever likely rotate an object a certain angle that is not dividable by 90? If yes, pro, in nope then standard.

Uni R_3

Angles

Retangular drawing only - etchasketch mode - standard all the way - save your money - if only 90s and some circular shapes, a perfect match.

If you will ever want or need to rotate objects all angles between 1 and 89 and 91 through 179, then you'll need the Pro version.

This was based on several years ago (2003 version) when I went to the Pro version - the standard version now might be able to rotate objects, couldn't before though - it's hard to gather from the MS web site what the 2007 version does compared to 2003 and 2000 which are close. Use 2000 Standard at work and 2003 Pro at home. Pro's much nicer and isn't much for what you're getting. As a Cad too it is cheap!

I really like the Pro 2003 version. It's actually as much of a design CAD tool as most people need. From floorplans to piping layouts it does a pretty good job. I like it better than Autocad, even for floor plans. It's simple but does enough and it's quick!! The standard libraries alone are worth the extra cost - they don't do our fittings but copy images then crop 'em and rotate them until they look right.

I never thought I'd like it as much as I do. The rest of the Office Suite is crap and I really miss Quattro Pro. The Visio software is 100% stable which is nice.

Mid-hockey-season, I did this rink for my son in about 10 minutes and 3 of those were spent just cutting out the players. Worked okay to show him what Bobby Orr would have done.

Uni R_3

Back in 2003...

The Pro version was needed to rotate any less or more than 90°. The templates are pretty good and it works better for most people as a cad tool than Autocad in most ways.

Still very pleased with it, and as far as good cad tools with tons of templates go, it's a bargain.

I did this rink to cut out and model some plays for a hockey nut son in about 10 minutes and 3 of those minutes were spent cutting out the players. I felt like a GM. L

Uni R_3

For rotating objects angles other than 90°...

You need Pro. Otherwise, if only rectalinear, the Standard is fine. Not being able to rotate would be tough when lining up copied images as objects. Sometimes they need a slight rotation to look right.

I must admit Visio 2003 Pro works like a charm! And it's a great little AutoCad light - quick yet stable. As an CAD program with templates galore it is a great buy.

I have 2000 Standard a work, and when I got 2003 Pro for home the difference was huge.

This past winter a son wanted to design some hockey plays. I did this rink in about 10 minutes including the 3 minutes just to cut out all the players... ;-)

Wayco Wayne_2

Nice looking rink

Thanks for the help. WW

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Kal Row

i use viso, power-point, and autocad...

different thigs are easier in each of them and with time you cross build a symbol library, i also use adobe ilustrator - a lot to disasemble and extract vector drawing from pdfs - attached is a circuit from rbi that i colorized

Kal Row

i use viso, power-point, and autocad...

different things are easier in each of them and with time you cross build a symbol library, i also use adobe ilustrator a lot to disasemble and extract vector drawings from pdfs - attached is a circuit diag from rbi that was b&w and i colorized it as you can see - it's a lot easier to follow in color

Brad White_171

This is in AutoCAD LT

With a fair selection of blocks (objects). Done some time ago in 2003 to illustrate zoning possibilities with a Monitor MZ

Brian

Hydronicad

> With a fair selection of blocks (objects). Done

> some time ago in 2003 to illustrate zoning

> possibilities with a Monitor MZ



How does it match up against Siggy's Hydronicad?

Dobber

Brian

Hydronicad

How does it match up against Siggy's Hydronicad?

Dobber

ALH_4

dgn

This was done in Microstation V8 a couple years ago. As I remember, the project used an Ultra.

Brad White_171

HydroniCAD and AutoCAD

Have no inter-relation that I know of. Different command structure. One might be able to import a HydroniCAD object into AutoCAD (using OLE) but I have never tried it.