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which new indirect water heater

andy_21
andy_21 Member Posts: 42
installing a new heating system & they are proposing a phase III smart indirect heater, any advice on this one or maybe another brand that would be a better fit.
2 1/2 baths, 1 whirlpool tub,5 people in home.
Thanks

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  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    I like the Phase 3 series

    but how big is your whirlpool unit, and which size Phase 3 are they proposing?

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  • brad_14
    brad_14 Member Posts: 25
    phase 3 smart 50 gallon with a Prestige 110

    I have been running this combo for a couple weeks now in my new house. It seems to work very well filling a big 6'x3' bubble tub. I do run the tank on a low DHW setting 120ish because I have small kids so the tub does empty it, however the recovery is very quick(scary quick if your used to dirrect fired heaters), I don't think I will ever have a problem even on the low setting. However using a higher temp and a mixing valve will really give you allot more capacity.

    On the boiler side I am very happy with the 110 so far the control is great.
  • andy_21
    andy_21 Member Posts: 42
    Re : i like the phase 3

    6x3 whirlpool & a 8o gal tank, boiler is 76K net BTU's
  • Radiant Wizard
    Radiant Wizard Member Posts: 159
    An Indirect is an Indirect

    As a water heater is a water heater. The all have just about the GPH ratings. Look at warranty that would be in the only difference the rest comes down to contractor comftablity in installation.. The question you should be asking is what size and do I use priority or not..At the btu rating you state you better be using priority controls and atleast a 60 Gal if not an 80 Gal based on your high dump load.
  • john_83
    john_83 Member Posts: 76


    You should always go with the same as the boiler if they make one. It makes a lot nicer job
  • andy_21
    andy_21 Member Posts: 42


    I'm leaning toward the 60 gal. tank,I thought you would always use the prority set up. Is there any reason not to?
    As far as tanks go It's seem that most have a 10-12 year life, is this correct or what could I use to get better results without selling off a kid or 2.
  • Cunner_2
    Cunner_2 Member Posts: 47
    Indirects

    I've started using the Burnham SL ( Stone Lined ) tanks, really good tank for the money, you can get the optional lifetime warranty very reasonably
  • Radiant Wizard
    Radiant Wizard Member Posts: 159
    You are Correct

    Always use priority.
  • andy_21
    andy_21 Member Posts: 42


    How does the Super Store match up?
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 24,562
    depends on your DHW use patterns

    5 showers in a row? How often is the tub flled? Will you have more than one hw demand at once?

    I installed a Laars Mascot for my in-laws. With just a plate HX built in (no storage) it can easily keep up with a 2.75 gpm shower head. Or the dishwasaher and wash machine running together.

    In my home an 80K Knight connected to an old 32 gallon Phase 3 provides endless showers also.

    I'd be more in favor of training the family to live within the capacity of that 78K boiler you have.

    Give them 120, or 180 gallons and they may use every drop and ask for more :)

    hot rod
    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
  • andy_21
    andy_21 Member Posts: 42
    depends on the DHW pattern

    usually run 2/3 showers back to back in AM, tub is only used 1/2 weekly. Right now we use a 40 gal stand alone gas heater, it will handle 2 showers, but the tub will never quite fill with enough hot water.
  • Dave_4
    Dave_4 Member Posts: 1,404


    I like the SuperStor because it has a bottom drain. Works well for me.. just a HO here.
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