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Why can't I find a trustworthy installer in Cincinnati?

Kevin Pulver
Kevin Pulver Member Posts: 67
It sounds like they have been more help to you than anybody.
Can they pipe a boiler too, or know someone who can?


  • DigitalBob
    DigitalBob Member Posts: 15
    Lies and ignorance in CVG

    I should have known when he told me during our first conversation that he wouldn't sell me anything I didn't need. The tubing is already in and all I needed is a madulating boiler and that I liked what I had read about the Trinity Ti100. The house is a 1 1/2 story bungalow with finished basement and the entire 2nd floor a master bedroom and bath. Heat load profesionally calculated for the 1st floor came in around 27,000 btus/hr, house is around 1600 sq ft. I figured a 100,000 BTU modulating boiler should cover me. His estimate:

    $3400 installation and 'overhead'
    $600 fittings and tubing
    $3695 for a 200,000 btu boiler

    He also told me my 80 year old hardwood on joists flooring could withstand 135 degree water without damage. I asked why I would need such a large boiler and was told latency loss where heat is 'lost' requires twice as large of a boiler as I have already. Is it me or is this guy nuts? I am far handier than the average Joe and am on the hairy edge of just doing it myself, warranty be damned.
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    do you happen to have a couple..

    14'6" X20 overhead garage doors ? that might be throwing off the heat loss calculation :)

    get a second opinion. try clicking on Find a professional...
  • Brad White_9
    Brad White_9 Member Posts: 2,440
    \"Latency Loss\"?

    That is up there with the Cold Fusion Theory.
    (Is that what happened to Jason Blair? He went to the heating business after leaving the NY Times?)

    At 27 MBH heat loss and even with an indirect serving average DWH loads, the smallest ModCon you can find should be plenty. Find a good 50 MBH modulating boiler and a properly sized indirect.

    I would also double-check the floor radiant layout and tubing density. If it is dense but still with insufficient output (floor temperatures inadequate if heated to say 82F) you may want to consider supplemental panel radiators. Have a pro check it out from start to finish.

    My $0.02

  • I'm in Cincy

    Hi Bob,

    I'm a Cincinnati native, working with radiant (and steam) for the last twenty plus years. I'm an RPA certified designer. I would be glad to help with any design issues and to find a contractor you can work with. I know many contractors, large and small, that can do this work correctly.

    Please let me help reduce your frustration level, and raise the level of contractor compentency in Cincinnati. We have enough black eyes in the minds of the country. Did you see the mayor's first pitch at Opening Day?

    I've got a fairly open schedule next week.

    Best regards, Pat
  • Brad White_9
    Brad White_9 Member Posts: 2,440
    How can anyone

    beat an offer like that? From the man that wrote the book...

    Bob, I would jump at this. Ask me how high.
  • Eric_25
    Eric_25 Member Posts: 79
    Muffler bearings

    I had some latency loss one time but I fixed it with some new muffler bearings and I rebuilt the dufalator valve.

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  • Glenn Sossin_2
    Glenn Sossin_2 Member Posts: 592

    Late and See BYE BYE
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,897
    THrowing a few half----d Buzz words around......

    is what gets ALOT of people by. That is a new one! Pat Linhardt will hook you up. Listen to this man, Mad Dog

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