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How do you heat a 500 year old stone church in 1850?

Jeremy Dunitz
Jeremy Dunitz Member Posts: 27
Thought you might enjoy reading this.



  • steve b_25
    steve b_25 Member Posts: 1

    Thanks for the link. After reading about the church's boiler I explored the site a little further and found a treasure of heating information about other historic buildings in the UK that others might enjoy as well: Heating Systems
  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963

    Of Praying!!!!!! Mad Dog

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  • Mad Dog_2
    Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 6,963
    What a treat that was.....

    They were soooo ahead of their time. Can't underestimate the collosal contribution of The British Empire. Mad Dog

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  • Steve Ebels_3
    Steve Ebels_3 Member Posts: 1,291
    I wonder

    How did they do the 180* bends on the "radiators" and what method was used to join the lengths of pipe?

    If there was any way of regulating the heat other than the size of the fire?

    What was the flow velocity in the system?

    It is WAAAAYYYY cool that the old system is still working!!!
  • Check this out!

    Here is a link to a description of the Perkins heating system.


    Circulating 300 PSI superheated water by gravity in a closed system! Doesn't look like they used any safety pressure relief either!
  • Daniel_3
    Daniel_3 Member Posts: 543

    I second that . .What a treat that was! And seeing the Ideal wall rad was the highlight of the visual journey.
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928

    A special "history of heating" edition of The [HVAC] News mentioned the Perkins system.

    According to the article it fell out of favor quite rapidly after a series of catastrophic "accidents". I'm pretty sure it mentioned that the accidents were mainly the result of a loss of system integrity caused by the extreme pressure.
  • Jimmy Gillies
    Jimmy Gillies Member Posts: 250
    Jacob Perkin

    Oh no!!!! Hold on a minute, Jacob Perkin was a dam Yank!!??!!!.......LOL

    Thanks very much for a great link, what a great read eh!

    I have worked on these cast iron heating pipes back in the 70's, the joints were made up with tar rope and pure cement and called Greenhouse systems, as they were found heating greenhouses.

    Kind regards.
    Jimmy Gillies Scotland.

  • Kevin O. Pulver
    Kevin O. Pulver Member Posts: 380
    I've read Steve

    about guys doing tight bending of copper lines in motorcycle restoration etc... that they would pack the tube with fine sand or something to keep it from kinking and then blow it out. I don't know it that would be possible or feasible with those rads. Old technology is amazing to me as well. How nice those guys appreciate it and post it for us too. Kevin
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,528
    Paul Yunnie

    who is on the committee of this wonderful organization has been a friend of mine for many years. He has sent me so much historical stuff over the years, and continues to do so now, even though he's retired and living in Australia. Paul has also served as one of ASHRAE's historians. He's a great guy to share a beer with.
    Retired and loving it.
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