Pex in Home Depot

Patchogue Phil_29

I saw it here in HD today, zip 11772. Not all bins were loaded, like someone was in middle of puting out the stock.

Sidewall markings say it is for potable water and heating and snowmelt systems. Nothing about if it has O2 barrier or not.

The press tool was I think $149.

Big Ed_3

Just Heared the Word

Pex is in the back warehouse of Home Depot ,waiting to hit the shelfs here in New York . Stocking Shark Bites too .... I can see it now !

Tim Doran_4

What Flavor?

What brand of pex is it supposed to be?

Tim D.

Singh_6

sharkbite

is already in. did not see pex at my NY HD today.
I was buying some light bulbs, but always walk thru the plumbing aisle.
Pex is also now at my local lumber yard.
The way I look at it more work for me, when someone tries to run some non- O2 barrirer pex to some baseboard which also is in HD.

Do you know which manufacturer?

S Ebels

Probably Zurn

My brother in the hardware biz can order it drop shipped direct from the factory. $1,000 order is PPD freight. You can't believe the pricing on it. About 1/2 of what all of us pay at supply houses. Granted it's Zurn but to 95% of consumers, pex is pex.

Gene Davis_2

OK, I'll bite

I'm not in the plumbing or heating biz, so I qualify as a PEX dummie. Point me toward the facts on failures of Zurn's PEX products, please.

Dave Stroman

I have not used the shark bite fittings yet, but I have heard good things about them. I can see how perhaps they would be good for a repair, but has anyone used them in an entire system? I see guys buying them by the hand fulls.

Dave in Denver

Weezbo

Dave...

i have installed one of the very first 3/4" fitting that i have on a steady 60 psi of potable water ...so, then i gave it a try on an RMB on the Field" side....then i spun some in for base board heat...changed my mind and removed them...then i made a Group of test headers at all kinds of pressure.... the 1 ,3/4 , and 1/2" all seem to be behaving real well on the radiant heating header...

i like Wee irsbo , Rehau and Stadler tubing...they come in colours with some O barrier built in....this makes it easy to identify Zones,.. Supply and Return when you geta away from a project a while...



a couple older carpenters were sitting around a table at a trade show here one summer...Doing any New Houses? asks the one

"Why should i ,? there are so many young guys and homeowner builders building all kinds of new houses...?


"well, what are you doing then?"

"Aren't you listening? i am going around fixing all the stuff they are goofing up...and Hey! it is a Lot easier work and it pays better."

Scram Bulleggs

Not that I would install it anyway but is non o2 barrier really a big deal on short runs typical of a baseboard system? I feel like remembering the reason it was an issue on radiant was the huge amounts of feet used?

ScottMP

This is a two sided sword

One side is the business we loose those who "self install" hacks who fly under the radar.

On the other is the Work we gain repaiing all the crap. Think of the people who will call us after buying a home with radiant heat that dos'nt work.

We loose work to copper and PVC that is installed by DYI's and we still survive.

It was only a matter of time. Just remember " NO home owner is going to pay alot for the tool ". Heard that one ?

Scott





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Robert O'Brien

I'm

waiting for HD to start renting press tools.

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jim lockard

may not

Be a long wait Bob.

Glenn Sossin_2

Q-Tite

Theres another version of the fitting, that doesnt' come apart, and costs approx 15% less. The shark bite is designed to be re-used. Other than caps, I would guess that more than 95% of the fittings bought are used intended for a permanent install.

We have several customers that use these fittings to transition from pex to copper - no special tools. Very easy. They make up to 1". Great for very tight spots like baseboard connections in a tight joist bay.

[Deleted User]

Non oxygen barrier tubing IS a HUGE issue...

And I anticipate the day when it will be illegal to use it in anything but potable water applications, which is its primary intended use anyway...

I've been contacted by numerous lawyers asking about non oxygen tube related failures. And its not the tubing thats failing, its all the ferrous components in the system that are failing, including the headers and tube sheets on copper fin tube boilers, an alledged "safe practice".

ME

Glenn Sossin_2

Pex

Not taking sides either way, but some of these comments would lead someone to believe Zurn pex is inferior to other brands. If you belive this, on what basis do you reach that conclusion ?

Big Bob_2

Pex Tool

$149 for the tool is less than hiring a pro to do the job. And then you own it.

John_162

SHAME ON YOU ZURN

If HD sells it I don't buy it, I will NOT install or push any product (especially piping). that way the homeowner doesn't know my cost and I can offer a perceived value of fixing it it anything falls which I would NEVER do it a homeowner wants to supply (ZURN) and have me install it.

SHAME ON YOU ZURN for selling us professional out.

and ot be honest I wouldn't even buy it any longer from a Supply House

Steve Ebels_3

Probably true ME, but........

Say the "barrier free" tube is sitting in Home Despot right there next to the "barrier equipped tube. Assume there's a difference in price of roughly 40%. Which one is Joe Homeowner going to buy if'n he doesn't know the dif? For that matter, which one is the orange apron dude going to recommend given the fact that he likely doesn't know, or care himself?