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G A
G A Member Posts: 1
Scotty , just don't use long island pipe supply. Personally I'm tired of Rich getting the run around and having to call and yell at Frank.

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  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884
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    I am bidding

    a good size project and in interesting one. If I get it I'll show photos, but first I gotta Get it !!

    We are talking about 3" and 4" hydronic piping here. I originally bid P/P with copper but the price is overwhelming for the tubing and fittings. I was thinking the labor saving would help.

    Anyone in Mass have a good contact for 4" steel piping and fittings ?

    Anyone have a suggestion for piping ?

    I am thinking Victrolic.

    Scott

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  • Tom Kane
    Tom Kane Member Posts: 56
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    3 and 4\" pipe

    Rehau has metric equivalent sizes from 2.5" to 4"....however, it is preinsulated....
  • Bernie Riddle_2
    Bernie Riddle_2 Member Posts: 178
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    Good Supplier/Warehouse

    Boston Pipe & Fittings Co, Inc., 12 First Avenue Somerville, MA 02143, Phone: 617-629-0500 Fax: 617-629-2004, >>>>www.bostonpipe.com<<<<< ............
    Bromley
  • Brad White_9
    Brad White_9 Member Posts: 2,440
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    Victaulic

    Not sure what the application is, Scott, but we specify Victaulic and as an alternate, Gruvlok and maybe one other, for low-temperature water systems (200F and below). Glycol has some issues but that gets down to the right gaskets. Welding is always an option of course. Fill me in off-line as to any specifics.

    Call David Dears at Victaulic.

    David Dears, BSME (‘84E MMA)
    Victaulic
    Northeast Engineering Specialist
    LEED® Accredited Professional v2.1
    7 Landers St.
    Somerville, MA 02143
    Mobile: 617-824-0601
    Fax: 617-628-6704
    Email: ddears@victaulic.com
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884
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    Thanks Guys

    Brad I'll e-mail you and Ed thanks for the lead.

    Scott

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  • Ray Landry_3
    Ray Landry_3 Member Posts: 94
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    Hey scott for all my fire sprink pipe I go through FW Webb out of Canton, Ma. They are really great talk to Billy he will hook you up. I used Victaulic 'zero flex' on a big hydronic job recently instead of copper with no problems. it was nice being able to T-drill too!

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,544
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    Independent Pipe in Canton is the best. They stock and sell tons of Victaulic.


    ED
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    pipe.

    > Independent Pipe in Canton is the best. They

    > stock and sell tons of Victaulic.

    >

    > ED





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    pipe.

    > Independent Pipe in Canton is the best. They

    > stock and sell tons of Victaulic.

    >

    > ED





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  • [Deleted User]
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    pipe.

    If you are going vic i would try Boston pipe, they will groove the pipe for you if you dont have a groover. Prices are reasonable. Independent in canton is always good to they usually have everthing.
    If you want to save money t drill as much as you can, saddle tees are not that expensive. I have done many large piping jobs and found that victaulic piping when the machine is set up properly can be faster than hiring a welder and a machine. If you rent a vic machine rent with it the hydraulic pipe cutter this machine will save you from cutting with a band saw.

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  • joel_19
    joel_19 Member Posts: 931
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    supply

    Republic stocks some big stuff in thier city locations

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  • Chris_82
    Chris_82 Member Posts: 321
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    What are the job / bid specs? It is always a good idea to know which of the aforementioned supply houses can and can't do for you. There is nothing wrong with any of the ones already mentioned and LI pipe can usually come in far under the numbers than others but their specialty is pre-planning. If you want a whole building on a truck load in a couple of days and have the t-drills and other tools lined up already they are very good. Whoever spoke badly about LI pipe is confused as LI pipe supplies the largest jobs and most successful companies in New England and everyone uses them! You can go to Vic; generally they make a better product at twice the cost. Met pipe and Boston pipe are the same they merged years ago for all practical purposes. If you want to be competitive get one of the portable less expensive roll groovers, and practice with it, there is no reason to spend 5 grand at Vic purchasing one. Many of the welded steel fittings from the sprinkler companies are great options as well, except plan ahead. Triple check the spec. for things like epoxy coatings and such. And believe it or not hiring a welder out of the union hall is very competitive with grooved pipe once you see the cost for these fittings. And the fact that larger jobs generally mean long straight runs. And they can make many of those 5 to 10 degree bends by heating the pipe, considerably faster than you can purchase them. As an example.
  • Moses
    Moses Member Posts: 93
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    Victaulic

    We used recently 4" and 5" Victaulic fittings and pipe on new install. We were very pleased with the results.

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  • bill_94
    bill_94 Member Posts: 7
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    \"big pipe\"

    Those are typical sizes on most of our projects. Depending on what the specs say, we would use Vic or welded. We are set up for both. Both types of joints can be prefabed off site. The Vic would bolt together. The welded we would add extra flanges and bolt it together that way. The Vic fittings are more $ but the labor is less. The weld fittings are less $ but more labor. Either way you need to figure equipment Vic machine, welder weld leads, fuel etc.
    I may have an extra roll groover for sale if you are interested.
    Are there suppliers in your area that are part of the windustrial buying group. They are all over upstate NY. Depending on the style of joints you could call Vic or weldbend directly and ask who the local suppliers are. You may be able to get price breaks on quantity depending on the size of the order.
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