SubRay Experience

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Greetings Walllies,

Am bidding a project that will use Watts Radiant SubRay and am in need of an approximate labor factor per foot, or per square foot or per 1,000 square foot.

Anyone?

Thanks!

ME

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New or old construction?

I have one under my belt, but we subbed the board install to some carpenters.

Glad we did! It was an old hotel and VERY out of square. It took a bunch of custom sawing to get thing going straight.

Actually the carpenters were quite impressed with the product and developed a bunch of tricks for faster install. They had all the right saws, nail guns and knowledge to get the wood in. We came back and tubed the job.

The number of zones will make an installation more complicated also. We were able to drop through the floor and run to manifold locations.

I'll bet he had an honest week into this 4 zone 2500 square foot job. But I would rate the difficulity as "very high" on this old building.

I would like to hear from someone that has done a new construction, square or rectangle rooms, job

It is a very nice retrofit product. Top grade, very stable and straight, baltic birch pieces. Excellent nail holding for hardwood and tile backer.

I was somewhat concerned about actual output. Looks more like a mini suspended tube application.

We did run and infared video film the thing starting and running for a day. It did perform to the manufactures spec.

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Brian Scram

subray

very slow going

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Paramters

New (sort of ) construction. Mounted in square rooms with concrete floors. 8 zones, 42 curcuits using 3/8" Watts PEX.

Thanks for your valued input.

ME

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I think you will find

that the labor hour $$ figure makes or breaks this installation.

Suppose you estimate 60 hours for the install of just the board. I think I know pretty close what your billable hour is

Add that labor figure to the, possibly $4 per square foot for the board and needed acessories. THEN add the tube install parts and labor, and manifolds, etc. It's certainly not a budget system, price wise.

In my case a carpenter, on the job already, bid his time at $15.00 per hour, paid directly by the GC/ owner, and was much faster and more accurate than I could have been at almost ten times that hourly rate.

This is the challange on any of the wood intensive, retro type systems. Hard to get them to pencil out at plumbers wages.

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