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clammy Member Posts: 3,094
I too suffer and know your pain the hardest part is to admit that there's a issue and to let go of things that have not been used in more then a year (supply wise )I know as do you that as soon as you toss it you'll probalby need it . Over the past year or 2 i have gotten better but it's hard and in my case even harder since i've always been used to working out of a 1 ton van and am now down to a small pick up with high cap that truely makes you mininze your supplies and tools.Tools never get tossed but supplies i have not used and are speciality stuff are tossed .I have also changed my ordering of supplies so that i don't end up with extra and what i don't use after a job is completed is tossed espically when it comes to duct work sooner or later you do get to see the floor peace and good luck clammy
R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
NJ Master HVAC Lic.
Mahwah, NJ
Specializing in steam and hydronic heating


  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    I'm going in

    My garage has not been cleaned or straightened in a year and it looks like a clutter bomb went off in there. I've spent the last 2 Saturdays cleaning and it still looks the same. (well slight improvement.) I began with an attitude of, "Create a place for everything, and then put everything in it's place." I have now digressed to, "Throw it all out!!!!! Ack!!" The problem is, if you do not organize, then you can't find stuff, and then you buy stuff you already have. It's a downward spiral into a mess. (Is this what Entropy is????) I've got boxes full of tools, fittings, parts, most of which I will probably never use. Copper fittings that require solder? Remember them? I've found 15 half used cans of PVC cement. This cant go on. I wish I was born with an ability to organize, instead of an innate ability to drink coffee and dream about beautiful women. Well, wish me luck. I'm going in. WW

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  • Joe Brix
    Joe Brix Member Posts: 626
    If you throw it away......

    .....you are guaranteed to need it the next day!!!!!
  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    A clean truck

    or desk, or whatever, is a sign of a sick mind..... don't know who originally came up with this but it seems appropriate....

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  • Bill Pidgeon_2
    Bill Pidgeon_2 Member Posts: 26
    Radia Program \"Hoarding & Clutter\"

    If you want more info, here's an intro to the "Infinite Mind" radio broadcast on "Hoarding & Clutter". It is an eye-opener! The link is:


    If you want to listen to it, you'll have to scroll down 15 or 16 different broadcast titles to get to the one on "Hoarding & Clutter".

    Their intro follows:

    "Just in time for the holidays . . . when does enough become too much?

    And why is it so hard for compulsive savers to know the difference?

    We examine hoarding, which involves the accumulation and inability to throw away unneeded possessions, to the point that a home may become so filled with stuff that furniture and rooms can no longer be used for their intended purposes.

    Guests include Dr. Randy Frost, a pioneer researcher in the study of clinical hoarding and Dr. Sanjaya Saxena, a neurobiologist who is pinpointing where in the brain the problem seems to originate. Author Denise Linn, addresses non-clinical forms of hoarding with tips on how to recognize -- and get rid of -- clutter.

    This week's host Dr. Fred Goodwin begins with an essay about his own recent experience in coming to terms with getting rid of clutter. While his story is not an example of clinical hoarding, he notes that it bears a resemblance to some of the stories we'll hear later in the program. He needed someone else's help in assessing and getting rid of what he didn't need -- old magazines, out of date text books, etc -- and he had to overcome thoughts of how the material really might be useful someday ("What if I might someday want to write a history of psychiatry? etc."). For awhile, he compromised by stashing the clutter in his garage, but when his township's yearly "take it away free" day rolled around, he finally threw it out for good. Looking around the now empty garage he felt a sense of accomplishment and relief. "Now the car could fit!" While clinical hoarding falls in the more severe end of the spectrum of "saving" behavior, Dr. Goodwin notes that studying this condition throws light on more common patterns too."
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232

    That new shop... secretly ,...it HAD to be built...I could hardly find last weeks coffee:) i have a box of popscicles that been riding "With" for about two three months now :)
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    In the movie

    The MATRIX, a person could learn something by downloading it directly into their head. I wish I could learn to organize as I go. I've seen it done. It aint in my skill set. I've had customers who are much worse. You couldnt walk through their house. I've recently had success in re-organizing my truck using these stackable 14 x 20 plastic organizer boxes made by Stanley. I have a box for copper fitting, black pipe fittings, straps, electrical connectors and so on. Instead of grabbing a container of wire nuts. I grab the electric fittings case and I have all the sizes of wire nuts and all the associated connectors. It really cuts down on trips to the truck. Now I need a taller truck so I don't have to bend over to get at the stuff. WW

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  • Guy Woollard
    Guy Woollard Member Posts: 82

    Goog Luck Wayne,

    If we don't hear from you by Tuesday, we will send in search and rescue!

    Guy Woollard
    N.E. Regional Sales Mgr
    Triangle Tube Corp.
  • where are you located, Wayne?

    After you "cleaned" out your garage, we, other contractors will stop by and store our stuff in your "extra" spaces....
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479

    You're as bad as my wife. She comes out while I'm working and says oh now I can move some of my stuff out here. Then she wonders why I get upset. I fight to make room and she trys to steal it from me. It's a good thing she's pretty. She can get away with stuff, if you know what I mean. WW

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  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    I'm already out

    Guy. thanks for your concern though. I can only spend so much time organizing. It's kind of like holding my breath underwater. I can only last so long, and then I have to come up for air. :) WW

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  • Jim Franklin
    Jim Franklin Member Posts: 170
    Is THAT the floor?

    I work in IT. We have a bazillion web pages for our internal documentation, almost all are stale/old/wrong and it's bitten us several times (an old map is worse than no map school of thought). After complaining to the boss man about the electronic clutter he says, "you must have a really neat basement".

    Nothing is further from the truth. I haven't seen the real floor in years. As fate would have it, that very night I knocked something over and came completely unglued at the mess. I went to Home Depot and bought $400 worth of plastic snap-together shelving and 2 carloads of clear Rubbermaid bins and disappeared every night and weekend.

    2 weeks later, I see that I have a red tile floor, some rot on the bottom of the walls, and enough plumbing/electrical/painting supplies to start all 3 trades. I still haven't tossed the doors from the kitchen cabinets I dismantled years ago, the almost black plywood from the dismantled built-in bookcases that will get replaced by Ikea once the family room is finished, or the 10' piece of 2" pvc that I will never have a use for. But I can see my floor.

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