Diesel fuel boiler

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If you are in California, all diesel was 15 ppm sulfur in 2006. Almost 100% of ON ROAD diesel is 15 ppm now. NON-ROAD diesel is transitioning to 500 ppm in 2007, except for certain exclusions, which will last until 2010. 15 ppm diesel will be everywhere, for all non-heating, in 2014.

Since EPA does not regulate sulfur content in heating oil, the above sulfur numbers don't apply. Separate storage is a numbers game, so most heating oil (except for the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, & Alaska) will probably be 500 ppm diesel by 12/1/07. Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, & Alaskan heating product will probably continue on its merry way.

So, is heating oil & diesel the same? It depends.

Mike Riggs

Does any one know of a source for boilers that run on diesel fuel, rather than diesel oil? A co-worker is pulling whats left of his hair out trying to find one!
Thanks in advance

Gene_3

diesel is fuel oil

#2 is #2

Diesel is clear so that the DOT can tell if truckers are using home heating oil which is not taxed.

diesel is always more expensive due to the road tax

Home heating oil is diesel with a red dye (auto trans fluid) for detection

Diesel is a derivitive of crude manufactured by oil companies to replace the vegetable oil that Rudolph Diesel was originally using in his diesel engines

he refused to side with big oil and was found floating in the English Channel

they were then free to call their new fuel (they already had gasoline) Diesel Fuel

Mike Riggs

Thanks!

Gene_3

yeah

If you are talking about sulphur, personally I burn low sulphur #2 w/5-20% biodiesel, because I care about the environment.

Soon, it will all be low sulphur and a good many oil companies are going to be running B5 bio once they hear how clean their customers units will be.

I mean, I hate soot, don't you??

[Deleted User]

Soot

is no friend of mine. However, until UL approves oil burning equipment for use w/ bio, I'll stand on the side line.

You are gambling w/ your home. Not so sure the customers we service, who burn 2 mil a year, are ready to gamble. Insurance companies have attitudes about improper use of appliances approved by the folks who stamp their 2 letters in a circle.

I refuse to wear "caring about the environment" on my sleeve. Every year my customers burn fewer gallons & therms than the year before, because of what I do. The fuels are burning cleaner, because of what I do. That ain't chopped liver. But, then again, I'm just a good-for-nothing money grubbing business man. Since I make a profit from what I do, my motives are suspect. No credit can be given. And. I won't ask for any.

wonk_3

Just a few minor corrections from a guy who used to work offloading refineries:

Diesel and Fuel oil are indeed the same thing. The raw product is clear with a dark tint to it... The stuff destined for on road use is dyed green, while the stuff destined for off road use (could be sold as home heating oil, off-road diesel, or just labled #2) is dyed red... The dyes are not just ATF or anything like it, in fact they are something kind of unique but are a somewhat guarded secret... They are some kind of unique compound that the feds can test for specifically, so that if you are driving around with red fuel in your tank you can't use the "I always dump some ATF in the tank to lubricate the injectors" excuse, cause they'll send the sample away for testing and they can tell the difference...

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Wonk.

At this point in time there are 3 different diesel fuels. #2 heating oil is treated as a separate entity. Except for the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, & Alaska, #2 has a special marker (not red) to ensure that, no matter what other color is added, the #2 can be detected if diverted to non-heating use. Where the #2 is not tagged, marketers cannot sell high sulfur diesel for off-road use.

If #2 met the specs for diesel, why would the feds, refiners, & marketers, go to all this trouble? The rules are a-changing. What used to be no longer is.

brucewo1b

WONK is close

however the red dye is now put in offroad use fuels so that if te feds find red dye in the over the road motor fuel tanks its non taxed fuel and a heavey fine ensues, the fuels are basicically the same but diesel has additives added such as pour point surpressants to lower the cloud point so it can be used in lower temperatures, and the surpressants are not used in warmer months. And as others have stated that the sulfur content is lower.