Crappy Honeywell controller

mtfallsmikey

It was 3yrs, 4 months old. Totally dead, no lockout, no light,etc., not in excessive heat situation. at least my wholesaler did me right on the price, and the instructions are priceless. i need to learn about the EnviroCom system one of these days.

Dave T_4

Crappy Honeywell controller

I have had to replace the Honeywell (R8184G) controller on my oil burner every 12-14 months for the past few years. Seems to me these should last longer than that. Any suggestions on a more reliable unit?

Unknown

They are

usually a pretty reliable relay, do you have any idea what part of it is "toasting" on you?

Dave

BillW@honeywell

What is the problem?

The R8184G is an older design, and is being replaced by the R7184, but is a very reliable control. They can fail if they get wet, or are physically damaged, but failures as you describe are rare. What did you do with the "dead" controls? Can you get me a date code? (4 digit number) stamped on the control. Are you a contractor or a homeowner?

Dave T_4

I am the homeowner, first off. As for the date codes, I can only give you that for the latest unit which failed, which is "0528". I don't believe the unit got wet or was otherwise damaged. I think this controller was perhaps 18 months old, going only by memory. Looking at the unit both inside and out, you would swear it was brand new.

BillW@honeywell

That unit was built in 2005...

and the warranty has expired. When you say it failed, what happened? Who determined that it was the oil primary that failed? Have you had a trained contractor check the rest of the oil burner? What brand of burner is it? There are many components that interact with the R8184G primary to make your system operate safely, and any of them can cause problems. Doesn't your oil supplier provide a yearly service plan?

MikeB34

what appliance are your working on

Some furnaces used a R8184N. I have had this issue crop up and it is usually some monkey replacing the N series with a G. The N has a larger transformer, and using the G will cause it to burnout VERY quickly.

Check with the manufacturer of the appliance, or if you have a parts list if it shows the unit with a R8184N.

Mike

Cosmo_3

roll call

I committed that felony myself. Wasn't looking and it was 9:30pm-late service call.

I haven't really had too many issues with the Primaries from Honeywell. I do remember working in my own house once and I spilled my coffee all over it. It was summer and I figured I would get to it before fall. Two months later the cold weather came and I forgot to replace it (you know the whole shoemaker thing) now 4 years later still going strong.....Caution that was in my own house- if it was a customer it would have been replaced asap. My poor family.....

Cosmo

Darrell

If the burner door, (the plate the burner mounts to), is not insulated like it was originally, the 8184 will not last very long...it tends to cook. The ignition transformer won't last either.

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william_5

Some thing not to be over looked

Any time you are toasting relays time after time. I have found a bad ground, that is coming in from the pole, the water pipe or the ground rod

William

Mitch_4

sorry Cosmo

Didn't mean to imply you were a monkey..;-}