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Steam changeout ..... with thermostat problems

It would be most desirable to have it on there since "foam happens"! Sorry for the delay in responding as I've been on the road all week.

Glenn Stanton

Manager of Technical Development

Burnham Hydronics

U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.


  • This past Friday

    We ran into this system in Floral Park , NY . A Peerless JOT4 with 2 zones of baseboard off the coil . Little more than a closet and a gas heater tucked to the right side . Hot and cold pipes , heating pipes , all kinds of crazy pipes all over the place . Very tight turns through the house with beautiful marble tile and finished wood floors right to the boiler room-closet .

    Typical Friday job .
  • Burnham V84

    We made it as hands free as we could for the absent minded customer - he freely admitted to never flushing the LWCO for years .

    We dropped the header into a 3 inch boiler main and brought the 2 steam mains into it separately . We also repiped the hot and cold going to the heater so we didn't bash our heads into them all day .

    And the baseboard zone thermostats ? The customer decided to get line voltage T-stats a few weeks before the job . Asked us if we check the operation of them later on ........ The red flags flew up . 3/4 of an hour after pulling them off the wall , putting them back on , resetting the programs , checking continuity , we decided they just simply do not work and told the H.O. to run to H.D. and get 2 low voltage T-stats . That's when the truth came out and the homeowner told us he had nothing but trouble with the stats . Thanks to Carol Fey , she pointed me in the right direction and we figured out the thermostats are used for electric baseboard and won't work with circs .

    This job was done by Kenny , Phil , Tony , George and myself . The extra help didn't work out too good though in such a cramped area . Next time I'll definitely make a job like this a 2 dayer .
  • You did it again!

    Once again, a work of art in no time flat! You guys are a pretty incredible team. Thanks for sharing!

    Glenn Stanton

    Manager of Technical Development

    Burnham Hydronics

    U.S. Boiler Co., Inc.
  • Glenn

    I keep saying it . The V8s are a breeze to install for steam , and they work outstanding . I'm hoping to try a Megasteamer soon and see it in action .

    I was meaning to ask you but I keep forgetting - if we use a probe LWCO only on a V8 or Megasteam , is it a requirement to use one with a timed delay for foaming issues ? I know Peerless requires it with their steamers .

    Thanks alot Glenn .
  • Al Corelli_2
    Al Corelli_2 Member Posts: 395
    Excellent work, Ron

    As usual, a work of art in very little time.

    Thank you for keeping the bar high.

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    Al Corelli, NY

  • Thanks Al

    I believe you're just like me - piping the boilers out thinking about what the digital pic will look like when it's done .
  • Al Corelli_2
    Al Corelli_2 Member Posts: 395

    You cannot believe the looks I get from the guys whan I get angry when something is not straight.

    Actually, I don't worry too much about the pictures, except that I pick the best angle so Norm can't tell what's crooked! :)

    Thanks Ron.

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    Al Corelli, NY

  • Steve_126
    Steve_126 Member Posts: 19

    Looks good Ron! Where are you located and what is your phone number? I am a HO near in Nassau County and might be looking for a steam boiler upgrade this summer. Hoping I can make it through this winter.
  • Hi Steve

    I work for Meenan Oil in Wantagh . If you want an estimate sometime in the summer just drop me an email and I can take a look .

    [email protected]

    And thanks for the compliment . Looks like you might just squeeze by one more winter :)
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,094

    Wow what a vast improvement the old peerless as looking a bit sad there ,you guys did a excellent job piping the new boiler in beautiful drop header and every thing as always on the plumb and square ,only you ron can keep the bar that high every job a true craftmans who quality and love for his work all ways show through .peace and good luck clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • terry_20
    terry_20 Member Posts: 1

    not sure it this is what you mean ,but you can run hot water baseboard off the coil of that steam boiler?
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997

    Steve, take what I'm sure will be pretty much word from everyone here. If you want it done and done right call them!!!

    It amazes me to see your work Ron!! Alway's raising the bar one more notch...
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    man, Ron, you sure can

    make a silk purse out of a pile of poop!!!you guys really do some nice work..but those ''before Ron'' pictures of the old boilers, yikes..there is surely some ugly boiler jobs in your stomping grounds..your head must spin when your tasked with fixing that stuff up..well done, another masterpiece.

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  • Thanks alot lchmb

    How have you been ? Any new fantastic pics to share ?
  • Clammy

    Yeah the old one looked a little butchered up , didn't it ? Sometime down the line a 1 inch return was disconnected and the two 2 inch mains return in one 1 inch black return . Here's to hoping for the best with this one .

    Thanks so much Clammy for your response .
  • Yep

    There was 2 zones of baseboard heat on the 6 gpm coil . If the pickup factor can handle the increased load , it's the best option short of a separate boiler .
  • It can get

    super ugly out here with these botched up steamers . I have to say almost all the steam systems we run across with the original boiler are not that bad , if you don't mind no Hartford Loop or equalizer . But funny thing is .... they worked . Try that nowadays with a new steamer and it'll sound like mini-men are in the pipes with sledgehammers .

    Thank you very much Gerry .
  • Hey Al !!!!!

    Check your email . Is the one you use here the right one ?
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