Infrared of Munchkin Contender running

David Woycio

I have a request hot rod. Could you get a shot of a indirect up to temp, then draw some hot water off. Would like to see the stagnation diff, and coil diff.

Question on your camera....... can you see the shot b4 taking or are you blind until exposed?

I need one of those!

hr

at 167 F

I'll be doing some filming this weekend if you have any requests?

hot rod

JimH

can you do a whole house heat loss calculation with that?

Hi, I've been following some of the current discussions
on heat loss calculation, and it seems to me that the
methods employed are not a whole lot better than using
dice or a dartboard. What if you could take infrared photos
of the whole structure, perhaps with a calibated emitter
in the picture, and then have a computer count up the numbers of each color of pixel?

-JimH

hr

someone smarter than

me probably could apply this data.

Sure does show the leaks in my shop! And my reflection as I take the picture.

hot rod

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JimH

what kind of camera?

Hey, are you using one of those Sony video cameras that
they quit selling because you could use the infrared cap-
ability to see under peoples clothes?

;->

-JimH

JimH

off at the mall taking pictures...

Hmmm... no answer... I guess he must be off at the mall
taking pictures...

;->

-JimH

Perry_3

Wrong

Jim - and anyone else who is interested in infared (or near infared) photograph.

The camera that is used to take the picture of the boiler - and heat loss from a building is a very expensive camera. Typically in the $8,000 - $10,000 range; which does not include accessories. The way these cameras are set-up does not lead to the "see through" types of pictures you are discussing; althoug I admit they probably could be modified to do that (not sure I've heard of anyone doing that though..)

The type of photography that can under ideal conditions (note I said ideal - really ideal) see through certain types of light clothing can be done for a lot less.

Yes, some of the older sony cam-corders could be used that way by adding a specific type of filter (the new sony cameras cannot without modification be used for that). People into commercial photography - or security functions - have available to them many cameras and accessories that can do that.

Reports are, though, that the few pictures you see on the internet (often of a maniquen) are staged pictures under ideal lighting conditions after the people have experimented for the best filter and technique to get that picture. Just shooting a picture of people on the street - or on the beach - usually does not turn out so well - althoug I will conceed that some people have acquired the right expensive equipment and mastered the techniques for certain lighting conditons.


Perry

hr

It's a Flir EX300

about 15 grand worth. www.flir.com to see how these things work. They build mostly military stuff but are building entry level cameras for contractors, roofers insulators, utilities, etc.

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[Deleted User]

Show us what it looks like with the cover ON...

Be interesting to see what effect the hot combustion chamber has on the cover during operation.

BTW, FWIW, FLIR stands for Forward Looking Infra Red. Now hows THAT for a mouthful of alphabet soup:-)

I wonder what backwards looking infra red looks like:-)

FLIR also leases these units.

Did you borrow this one from your utility again HR?

ME

Marty

more ?

Another request for one with the cover on, far enough away to see some of the intake and exaust piping also. Cool toy wish I could get one.

kevin coppinger_4

it would be neat....

to see differnt. brands of indirects Amtrol vs. super stor vs. vaughn....etc.

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JimH

read all about it

These are the cameras that the cops were using to bust
people for growing pot in their attics, until judges started deciding that it was bit too intrusive, since they
could also see what room people were in, right through the
walls.

A fair amount of this gear is for sale on Ebay for >$10,000, you might be able to pick up an older used unit
for >$5000.

Read all about it at:

http://www.flirthermography.com/

I still want to know if you could use thermal imaging to
do a more accurate heat loss estimate.

-JimH

hr

The Contender vent

with the machine running at 160F Notice the cold intake blending with the exhaust.

Jim, Flir offers a bunch of different user built software. their scientific package sounds like it could crunch all the pics and data for the answer you are asking. List price $14,950.00 for the software!

Dave, I have an uninsulated SuperStor indirect I will connect and film tomorrow. Same with the case on pics.

Nighty nite

hot rod

Constantin

Hi Hot Rod!

Not to pick nits, but you might want to adjust the emissivity setting on the camera as you scan different materials to ensure you get the right temperature. I see that your e setting is fixed at 0.96, this web site suggests 0.91-0.92 for PVC, other settings for other plastics.

hr

Cover on at 180F setpoint for

about 20 minutes of run time.

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hr

Small indirect from 147 down

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jp_2

picture request

hot rod, have you tried taking a pic of a low loss header?

Bernie Riddle_2

Hidden camera

How'bout a picture of a customers face, before and after you give them the bill> LOL>> only kidding, nice equipment you got there H-R !!