Where to find CO Detectors with boiler shutoff?

JimGPE_17

I'm working in Mass. and did a pretty thorough code search. I am unaware of such a law.

Could you please cite the reference or cut and paste the specific passage into your thread?

Thanks.

Jim.

Jim Franklin_2

New law in MA requires a CO detector capable of shutting off the boiler if it's vented within 7' of the ground. Not only haven't I found any, but none of the suppliers I called has had people asking for this. Is there a secret way of wiring the regular detectors to shut off the boiler? What do you all do?

thanks,
jim

Mark Hunt

What if


it isn't the boiler that is the source of the CO???

Read this

Mark H

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Jim Franklin_2

527 CMR 31.00

That's the closest reference I have seen, got it from Mike Holt's forum, but I haven't found it online. It's part of the CO law Romney signed a few months ago. I got a much-faxed document from my plumber, and a comment from my electrician, both who said "if a boiler is vented out the side of a building within 7' of the ground, a hardwired CO detector that will shut off the boiler needs to be installed".

Now this being MA of course the actual code text is still completely screwed up and even the inspectors have no idea what is really required. No one I spoke with knows if this is a gas or electric code issue.

jim

Jim Franklin_2

I was wrong

Just talked to the plumbing inspector. Initially it was written as I said, but the danger of houses freezing won out over the boiler cut-off, so now it's just a 120v hardwired detector required, no boiler interlock.

jim

Ted_9

I hope this is still the most recent version.

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JimGPE_17

Mass code on line

According to the Mass. online code pages, there is no 527CMR number 31.

http://www.mass.gov/dfs/osfm/fireprevention/cmr/index.htm

527 CMR (Fire prevention) skips from 30 to 34.

The website may or may not be up to date, and they suggest you contact the Secretary of the Commonwealth's office for updated information.

Geo_5

mass code

try this


http://www.mass.gov/dpl/current/tip/pl_special_0205.htm

Mitch_6

CO alarms

The code is co alarms below seven feet must be on all living space either battery or electric or both. The latest part of the change is the co alarm in the boiler area does not have to be in the same room but just outside of the boiler room.

"It must be hard wired on the same circuit as the boiler so if power is shut to the alarm the boiler is also cut out"

Don't forget the sign to keep the vent clear no one will see in the back yard after a snow storm.

This has been a problem with the electricians since there code states no other item may be on the boiler circuit.

Also the instructions with the detectors state you must be at least 20 feet away to prevent false alarms.

The fire inspectors I have talked to have completely contradicting reports on how to install the alarms and have stated they will get back to me when they know.

Also I have been told by other inspectors all of this will change in March.

You still need at least battery co's if the power vent is over seven feet.

There is no mention of low level alarms so there is no protection for the kids, sick or elderly.

Welcome to the state of confusion, not to be confused with steady or constant state.

Mitch,

Mitch_6

Forgot the question here is an answer.


This company states to make low level monitoring with higher level shut down and remote sensors for co.

the company is ultragard, electronic control systems if the link does not work

http://www.ecsultraguard.com/codetails.htm

Mitch,

allenh

state fire marshall told me that

Jan 9 th all the updates will be on their website. He told me that he still hasn't heard whether co detector by boiler will be on boiler circuit or common smoke (his guess was on common smokes).

As usual local inspectors have the final say.

Dec 19 th was the day that it was all supposed to be public knowledge. March is the month that some of it will have to be implemented. I can dig up what the gov signed if anyone wants to read it. However after the gov's signature it went to state fire marshall and other groups to make the final rules and regs.

Mark Hunt

Mass


confusion anyone???????

CHEEZE AND CRACKERS FOLKS!!!!!!!!!

Definition of confusion: Politicians with a "mission"!!!!

NONE of the codes they enacted will do a damn thing to prevent ONE GD Co poisoning! FACT!

Do not worry about what the idiots say! Get educated and get testing!

What is better PROOF... "the code" or "the analyser"?????

"I did it to code and they still died" rings pretty hollow in my ears. How bout yours???

Mark H


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