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Vacuum return
Viki Ingersoll
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We have a 1950s vintage school building with steam. There was a vacuum return system that was disconnected maybe 20 years ago. (Trying to find out if that was when the problems started.) The original pneumatic t-stats were abandoned (?when) and replaced with a single T87 and non-electric radiator valves. Heat is uneven and unpredictable. Im pretty sure at least one of the non-electrics has failed in the open position. Radiator traps have supposedly been done in the last few years. Radiators tend to be warm near the supply, cold near the return. I can hear glugging in a return on the first floor, (like the upside down pop bottle) that makes me wonder if condensate is trying to drain but being held back by a vacuum. (We had that at another school w/ non-electrics, it went away when they dropped the pressure from 5 to 2 #.) I havent crawled into the 4 x 5 tunnel that goes under the school to see what it looks / sounds like in there. Dont know where end of main traps are or exact service history on them at this point. System was operating at 7 pounds pressure when I was there, water line bouncing 2 3 inches, burner cycling every 2 3 minutes. I asked the contractor to set the pressure back to 2 pounds, which he did. The school was pretty cool the next morning, so he set it back to 5 pounds in order to get supply to all of the radiators.
Ive had two different people that I respect offer contradictory opinions on the solution. The guy who sells vacuum pumps says I have to restore the vacuum system to make it work. Another trusted resource says a feed water system instead of vacuum and hell come up with some other suggestions if he gets paid to study it in depth. I am also being told that the non-electrics are too large supposedly sized for the pipe rather than the heating load and that they should be replaced with properly sized units.
Can you tell me in what direction I should start and some of the questions I should be trying to answer in order to figure out how to get this system operating properly?
Ive had two different people that I respect offer contradictory opinions on the solution. The guy who sells vacuum pumps says I have to restore the vacuum system to make it work. Another trusted resource says a feed water system instead of vacuum and hell come up with some other suggestions if he gets paid to study it in depth. I am also being told that the non-electrics are too large supposedly sized for the pipe rather than the heating load and that they should be replaced with properly sized units.
Can you tell me in what direction I should start and some of the questions I should be trying to answer in order to figure out how to get this system operating properly?
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