CS82 Honeywell Powerpile Gas Valve!!!!!

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or a homeowner? The reason I ask is the change out for this system requires someone who is familiar with retrofit procedures.

From you post I understand the CS82 pilot generator cartridge is not putting out enough millivolts, is that correct? If so has the pilot been cleaned and adjusted? If so and it is still not adequate then you need a change out. All that will need replaced is the pilot not the gas valve. The CS82 is obsolete and Honeywell has never authorized a replacement. I do however have a replacement system that can be used legally and I also have a written procedure I have developed for doing the change.

I will not however release this information to anyone but a gas heating controls specialist. Have such a person contact me and I will make it available to them. I hope you understand this is a liability issue for me.

Finally has a full set of millivolt readings been taken on this system? Are all the splices in the wiring good? Powerpile systems are very tricky and often times some cleaning up and adjusting can get one more heating season out of them. You can e-mail me at gastc@cox.net or call 401-437-0557.

Rodney Summers

HELP!!! CS82 Honeywell powerpile gas valve!!!

Is there a regulated replacement to the CS82 honeywell gas valve I can aquire for an old furnace in my home. I know this system is obsolete but its too costly for me now to upgrade out of this furnace system right now. i'm no pro but here are some specs on it. Model # U-82EF, ser. # D1, type VSA87A1X4X1 GP. The one on it now is getting poor voltage to it all of a sudden any ideas on that as well?

MIKE6

Honey mv valve

If your not getting enough voltage the valve is not the problem.Voltage comes from the generator which is heated by a pilot with a sharp blue flame.If pilot is lazy or yellow it is not heating up the generator enough to open the valve.Also the wiring is very imporant.corrosion and many splices slow down the voltage.I ofton re wire the whole system.for ex. telephone wire is to thin of a gauge to be used on a mv sys,the heavier the gauge the better.Sorry but I don't have a cross ref book for valves,check the supply house
MIKE

Rodney Summers

Tim,

I am not a tech, just a homeowner but my brother "jumped over" the furnace at the gas valve wiring and it came on, we immed. put things back in order but neither a pilot cleaning or adjument has been done. Would you reccommend that plus re-wiring or is the changeover a costly waste of money that could be better spent in upgrading and what would be an esier upgrade system (ex. condensing vs. two stage furnace. Thanks to all who reply I am not trying to take serious matters into my own hands, just like being educated on why it went bad before i make a move

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The changeover is simply a replacing

of the CS82 pilot system. I want to make sure that is what you have. Is the pilot shaped like an "matchbook"? The reason is that if it is just a regular round cartridge those are still available.

Keep in mind with Powerpile you have the advantage of being able to run the unit on gravity if there is a pwoer failure and get some heat. With new systems you do not have that option as they reguire 120 volt power to operate.

If the system is in good shape otherwise I would not replace it but have a professional come and service the unit. Ask them if they know how to trouble shoot powerpile systems and make sure they take a full set of millivolt readings.

The retrofit is fairly simple if done by someone who is familiar with gas powerpile units. Have them contact me and I will make the procedure available to them for no charge.

Just one more thing powerpile systems are tricky in that sometimes just bumping something and they will come on and run for a while, this is typical behaviour when there is an intermittent problem. Millivolt readings will find the cause and correction is usually fairly simple after that.

Rodney Summers

Yeah it is shaped like a matchbook. i have had 2 repair estimates all which reccommended the upgrade as noting the in-efficiency of the system and the limited avail. of parts. One quoted around $950 for a change over but that was to incorperate a new gas valve w/ transformer (him assuming the gas valve not getting enough voltage was the problem)

Rodney Summers

Yeah it is shaped like a matchbook. i have had 2 repair estimates all which reccommended the upgrade as noting the in-efficiency of the system and the limited avail. of parts. One quoted around $950 for a change over but that was to incorperate a new gas valve w/ transformer (him assuming the gas valve not getting enough voltage was the problem)

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The $950 to change a pilot

is extreme!!! As for needing more voltage that tells me they do not perhaps know anything about Powerpile. What is your location? If you are nearby I want to get you some REAL professional gas help.

I feel that it may also be the case that you may misunderstand that what perhaps they are quoting is a changeover to an electric ignition system. It may be money better spent in that case to go with a new unit.