quick trac

Ted_9

Buy the Quick trak your self and install it. This should save on the labor and your time trying to make your own.

This all should be engineered: Radiant heatloss and design.

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tomtom

self made quick track

Wuth the current market and the price of quick track used for radiant instalation i am wondering if it would be cheaper to make my own to keep the cost of materials down.
Does any one here on the wall make their own quick trac? Please give me some feedback and photos if possible of any installs that you have done this way. Thank you

hr

It's the labor $

that get you with these systems.

Sure you can build your own. I've used ThermoFin U fins with plywood strips. Many box stores will rip the sheets for free, or a small charge. Beats burning up a skill saw

I've also done some with the thin flashing gauge U fins, although the heavier extruded fins do hold, and move, the heat to the edges better than flashing material fins.

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Unknown

jut say no to this system

A whole lot more options out there when it comes to dry above the floor systems. The limitations of the Q.T/C.P system are quickly realized once you've put in a few acres of the stuff.

Thermofin U from Radiant Engineering is a good option and Raupanel from Rehau are much more flexible and offer greater output IMO. This will cost you another 1/4" as compared to the glorified CDX grooved plywood with the tin foil on the bottom.

It is quick;-)

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Unknown

depends on how good at carpentry you are. If you're good, the labor increase isn't necessarily that much. As HR mentioned, you can even get some rips in plywood for free.. still leaving the rounded end pieces for you to cut though.

Plus side, it's a better performing system, with lightweight plates, than quik trak. Use PEX-AL-PEX though with lightweight plates to fight noise. Half the material cost including plywood, usually, as well... you'll have to see how you value your labor though.

With heavier plates (Thermofin U) you're up to about 75% material cost, more labor, but performance that will kick the snot out of quik trak.

Or you can go the other way, jack the material cost up and go for the lowest labor and best performance with Warmboard...

Or jack up material cost middle labor for the performance with Raupanel.

Or bag it all and go for low labor and low material cost and high performance with radiant ceiling

Lots of options!

ScottMP

And Yet

all of the acres I have put in without a complaint ....

HHhmmmm

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Unknown

Scott,

I'm glad to hear that. To each their own:-)

Certainly nothing wrong with the stuff compared to heating with baseboard or hot air. You might give another dry system a try. You may just like it .

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joel_19

hey

how does the Rehau not make all kinds of noisse if you don't put silicone in the groves and how come it doesn't squeak when there is hard wood on it? And it's not any cheaper than QT. Unless your getting some kind of dael i can't

ScottMP

But Joel

It dosn't have "Limitations".



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Ted_9

heating

I too have installed climate panels and have yet to have a major problem. Now could there be in issie with the manufacturing lately, who knows?

I still say Quick Trak and Climate panel are great for dry installs.

On another note, I personally havent used Raupanel. It looks neat but it seems like more work.

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Unknown

Raupanel is extruded aluminum and it actually grips the pipe, unlike quik trak. The silicon in quik trak is because it's basically poorly designed for heat transfer and that's the only way you get any appreciable conduction to the lightweight aluminum under the plywood.

It's not cheaper than quik trak, it just performs better. A lot better.

Unknown

It is Quick.

If you look closely at what CP/ QT system is, you will soon discover within it’s design the many compromises made to achieve major market share. A roll model of industrial design for profit VS performance. This endeavor is one of great success for all involved.

It has been my experience that this system intentionally limits the amount of aluminum to a bare minimum and relies upon silicone caulk (thermal transfer giant) to deliver more surface area from the tubing to the aluminum foil that sits on the bottom of the heat emitter. The main ingredient of the system is 1/2” CDX plywood. Even the 10” panels sport the same width of thin stamped material on the bottom as do the 7”. Hey,,, It is fast to install. You are then forced into ridiculously short loop lengths (small tubing’s head loss) and forced into only one method (mechanical connection) to connect. Seems like an under engineered system **** bent on profit over quality. Thankfully the forgiving nature of dry radiant systems in general saves the day in most instances. Hey, did I mention it’s quick?


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