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Hi Schiller,

Thank you for valuable information, my front yard is 20’wide x 10’ deep, it seems small but I will try to find out if is feasible

best regards Waldemar

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  • waldemar kawalko
    waldemar kawalko Member Posts: 14
    geothermal heating & cooling

    I have a house (brownstone) in Brooklyn , NY 11211 & I wonder if would be possible/feasible to drill holes I front of the house for geothermal pipes. Do you know anybody in NYC area who is doing well drilling installations?
  • JimH
    JimH Member Posts: 89
    urban geothermal

    OK, there's at least two of us out here who are
    curious about geothermal in dense urban settings.
    Is it just plain nuts to think the city will let
    you drill your own well?
  • Singh_5
    Singh_5 Member Posts: 41
    crazy

    I know for a fact, it is being done in NYC, mostly commercial. Of course you need to find locations of all the underground piping, wiring, telephone, communications and gas, for this you'll need an enginnering consultant and permits, bonded to repair sidewalks etc.

    I know one well guy from Putnam County going down there, may help.

    Stick with a nice high eff gas boiler, try to tighten up that brownstone with windows, insulation etcc..

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  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,788
    go geo

    I agree, to spend the money and the mental energy dealing with a drill rig poking holes in an urban envirnment, have you buttoned up you home to its maximum capability?

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  • schiller
    schiller Member Posts: 60


    we've done a few in city areas, The well holes have to be 10' apart. the smallest area we had to work w/ was a drive way. roughly 8'x 30', I still drive by that place and shake my head. I think you should start by contacting the place that issues the well drilling permits. they should be able to tell you who has done that type of work in your area. a hydronic GEO system is the best of both worlds.
    good luck
  • Brian_24
    Brian_24 Member Posts: 76


    Check out ecrtech.com they have done what you are looking for.
  • Paul_11
    Paul_11 Member Posts: 210
    unique but not cost effective

    There are a lot more geothermal jobs in NYC than you might realize, but they are all large jobs.
    Do a google search for 1400 fifth ave for Carlton Brown's most famous NYC geothermal project.
    Do a google search for Full Spectrum of NY for Carlton Brown's development company which is doing very interesting and Green urban housing.

    I know of 2 or 3 very interesting projects being done in 2007 by Colin Cathcart, of Kiss & Cathcart who has also done some world famous work with photovoltaics.

    Most people feel it is not cost effective to do geo in NYC where you have to do the piping vertical on small projects.

    However, you certainly could do a geothermal system.
    You can do an open system with wells or a closed system with just piping, but it is very expensive in NYC.
    Geo is much cheaper with horizontal piping runs buried 3 or 4 feet underground, but this is not possible here in NYC, where land is at such a premium.

    I'm doing a horizontal geo in PA this coming summer at a house I own there. I'm draining my pond and putting the piping under the pond.

    Good Luck,

    Respectfully,

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  • mikea23
    mikea23 Member Posts: 224
    Paul

    > There are a lot more geothermal jobs in NYC than

    > you might realize, but they are all large jobs.

    > Do a google search for 1400 fifth ave for Carlton

    > Brown's most famous NYC geothermal project. Do a

    > google search for Full Spectrum of NY for Carlton

    > Brown's development company which is doing very

    > interesting and Green urban housing.

    >

    > I know of

    > 2 or 3 very interesting projects being done in

    > 2007 by Colin Cathcart, of Kiss & Cathcart who

    > has also done some world famous work with

    > photovoltaics.

    >

    > Most people feel it is not

    > cost effective to do geo in NYC where you have to

    > do the piping vertical on small projects.

    > However, you certainly could do a geothermal

    > system. You can do an open system with wells or

    > a closed system with just piping, but it is very

    > expensive in NYC. Geo is much cheaper with

    > horizontal piping runs buried 3 or 4 feet

    > underground, but this is not possible here in

    > NYC, where land is at such a premium.

    >

    > I'm

    > doing a horizontal geo in PA this coming summer

    > at a house I own there. I'm draining my pond and

    > putting the piping under the pond.

    >

    > Good

    > Luck,

    >

    > Respectfully,

    >

    > Paul B.

    > Shay pshay@arealgoodplumber.com 212-505-1837 LM

    > P 1307 LMFS 654B OUR MISSION: TO PROVIDE WORLD

    > CLASS PLUMBING, HEATING, AND SPRINKLER SERVICE TO

    > EACH AND EVERY CLIENT WE SERVE, FAR EXCEEDING

    > THEIR HIGHEST EXPECTATIONS!

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    if you are doing loops in pond check out the slimjim plates we have done a few they work great and install time is almost nothing also no need to drain lake email me if you would like more info this is the link for them
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    Mike A
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