5 Most Important & Cutting Edge 2006 Wall Issues

J.C.A._3

TESTING !!!

If you ain't testing, you just guessing.

Happy New Year all. Chris

D107

What else would you add to these?

In no particular order and omitting many I'm sure:

1. Re-thinking Primary Secondary Pumping with Mod/Cons

2. System 2000 Rep/Installer relations (wall as referee)

3. Re-thinking outdoor reset with mod/cons

4. Health: Ongoing awareness of CO issues, photos of dangerously bad installs found by wallies, Legionnaire's Disease in indirect HWH with less than 140 degree water.

Such a great synthesis of ideas emerged from some of these threads you could almost feel the shifting of the hydronics field's center of gravity.

Though I have bought a number of bricks since I found the wall, and have paid pros for consultations, I'm sure the forum here has saved me $$thousands in additional consultation costs, and I'd bet homeowners collectively saved tens and even hundreds of $$thousands.

Thanks and bring it on '07.....

David

Steamhead (in transit)

My suggestion for #5

the new, more-efficient generation of steam boilers, starting with the Burnham Mega-Steam. Come on Crown, Dunkirk/Utica/ECR, Peerless, Slant/Fin, Smith, Weil-McLain and all the others- Burnham caught you with your pants down on this one. When are you bringing your new steamers out?

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Bob Sweet

Another possilbe entry ?

Designing a mod/con that addresses the issue of short cycling due to lack of mass. The design of either added mass or incorporating a buffer tank as a package.

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Timco

I thought 'rats' was a pretty popular topic...

Tim

marc friedman

Sidework

jackchips_2

Something

lacking in so many threads:

Civility.

Happy New Year to all.

Jack

Al Corelli_2

Most Notable...

I am very happy that the word of the year turned out to be

"Vulva".

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Wayco Wayne_2

Vulva.......

I like the sound of that. However, the word I've been using a lot, esp when correcting someone elses mistakes is, Knucklehead. WW

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John R. Hall

What about biz?

I don't think any list would be complete without a business topic, i.e. how to squeeze more profits out of rising costs. (Hint: raise prices.)

Dave_4

updated list

In no particular order:

1. Re-thinking Primary Secondary Pumping with Mod/Cons

2. System 2000 Rep/Installer relations (wall as referee)

3. Re-thinking outdoor reset with mod/cons

4. Health: Ongoing awareness of CO issues, photos of dangerously bad installs found by wallies, Legionnaire's Disease in indirect HWH with less than 140 degree water.

5. More efficient steam boilers.

6. Real-time energy load calculations

7. Addition of mass or buffer tank to mod-cons to curtail short-cycling.

8. Sidework

9. Increasing profit margins aka raising prices.

10. Increased use of term 'knucklehead' to honor particularly inferior work.

11.Civility--possibility abetted by 'Big Ugly' gatherings nationwide.

12. Off-topic entertaining threads (e.g. the rats chronicles)

13. Continued growth of the Wall's archives and features--including introduction of videos, confidence cards, dead men stickers. Growth of Wall to #1 home heating site.

Gene Davis_2

What's sidework?

Timco

It just came to me that nowhere in this list is anything about the importance of CO detectors, and the dangers associated with CO poisoning. Mark Hunt has gone out of his way to keep us all informed and reminded of the dangers. Hats off to his efforts throughout the past year(s) and a spot in the top 5 for sure!!!!

Tim

John L

What about

Salesmanship??

John L

Ken_40

Pro-Press

The 250+ posting of problems with the Pro-Press Viega "systems" was the largest "hit" thread I can recall.

An e-mail from "Harold" the homeowner who was the principal victim of this product failure expose suggests he has heard nothing yet from the manufacturer, despite a 30-day "we will get back to you" promise, which is now three months overdue - will re-open the issue in a few days. He tells me he will contact the manufacturer and request they do, what they promised to do, now that the "holidays" are over.

Meantime, we have notified the president of all specifying engineers in our local ASHRAE of the issues and await resolution before advocating use of the product without reservation.

Their deafening silence is a virtual admission of a problem. The nature of which requires a corporate response, not continued silence.

Steamhead (in transit)

I'll \"third\" that

since JCA posted a request to include that topic earlier.

Also, increased use of lo-hi-lo firing on non-modulating boilers, especially steamers!

Two more for you, David.

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D107

Updated

CO issues were included, but not as their own separate item, which now is corrected. I also had chosen not to get into listing names since many would inevitably be left out....Also, I assumed Mr. Corelli's suggestion was tongue in cheek.

In no particular order:

1. Re-thinking Primary Secondary Pumping with Mod/Cons

2. System 2000 Rep/Installer relations (wall as referee)

3. Re-thinking outdoor reset with mod/cons

4. Health/Safety: photos of dangerously bad installs found by wallies, Legionnaire's Disease in indirect HWH with less than 140 degree water.

5. More efficient steam boilers.

6. Real-time energy load calculations

7. Addition of mass or buffer tank to mod-cons to curtail short-cycling.

8. Sidework (not quite sure what this means)

9. Increasing profit margins aka raising prices.

10. Increased use of term 'knucklehead' to honor particularly inferior work.

11. Civility--possibility abetted by 'Big Ugly' gatherings nationwide.

12. Off-topic entertaining threads (e.g. the rats chronicles)

13. Continued growth of the Wall's archives and features--including introduction of videos, confidence cards, dead men stickers. Growth of Wall to #1 home heating site.

14. Carbon Monoxide and Combustion Testing and Awareness; reporting of CO poisoning and deaths.

15. Salesmanship.

16. Air conditioning/Refrigeration Issues

17. Controls

18. Pro-Press Problems

19. Increased use of lo-hi-lo firing on non-modulating boilers, especially steamers.

20. Countless successful interventions with heating professionals and homeowners to solve heating problems.

21. Efficiency Studies and Issues a la Mike T and John Ruhnke.

22. Laughter

23. Charity fundraising

Paul Fredricks_3

Wasn't that #4?

Unknown

number 24.....

Still waiting for that picture of that guy with bathrobe, barefoot, coffee in his hand and getting his morning papers, on his newly installed snowmelting system .... Anyone seen Scott yet?

J.C.A._3

Its.....

Hard to do, without any appreciable snow so far !

We had a dusting on Saturday but it was gone by Sunday morning. Temps. in the 50° range forcast until the beginning of next week, so we may be waiting awhile to see that photo. Chris