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Ken D.
Ken D. Member Posts: 836
Any idea why the prompt at the bottom of the message page when answering a thread? It prompts you to write a text exactly as it is written before you can post. Just wondering.


  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490
    It helps

    to keep the spybots off the site.
    Retired and loving it.
  • KenD,

    you must have "missed" Dan`s posting on this matter. It`s like that to control the spam. Just cut,copy and paste the text.

  • Chris_82
    Chris_82 Member Posts: 321
    Just a time remindeer.

    If your full of hot air, as I am, the site will time out, and you will get an error message, be sure to save your work, by cutting and pasting, and then try again.
  • Thanks Chris,

    that`s happened to me too, while trying to make up my mind what to say, and I was wondering how to get around-it! I always started again, but it`s never the same.

  • Dan...

    THese guys make a valid point. The time alloted between posts needs to be extended. Too short for short fat stubby slow moving fingers like mine:-)

    Like maybe 30 minutes??


  • Hey Mark,

    I type with 1 finger, so it really gets to me!

  • Ruthe Jubinville_2
    Ruthe Jubinville_2 Member Posts: 674
    preview post before you post and it goes

    at least it has for me.

  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490
    Let me explain again.

    The system is only going to ask for the numbers when you start a new Wall session. If you use the BACK button at the top of the Wall you'll still be in the session. If you click the QUESTIONS button on the navigation bar it will reset the session and you'll have to type type the numbers again.
    Retired and loving it.
  • Thank-You Ruthe,

    I`ll try that the next-time that happens!

  • Maine Doug_54
    Maine Doug_54 Member Posts: 2
    There is always

    Windows Notepad or Wordpad to compose your message. No timeouts.

    Compose, save or not, copy and paste with mouse into "Post Reply", copy and paste the funky text to get past GO.

    This permits mucho thinking, change of mind, verbose technical factoids etc.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490
    And each session

    lasts for three hours.
    Retired and loving it.
  • Al Roethlisberger
    Al Roethlisberger Member Posts: 194
    Just refresh the page

    This forum preserves the text and form info you have already filled out.

    So if the verification text "expires", all you have to do is:

    1) Go "back" on your browser after you receive the error, and you'll still see your post

    2) Then "refresh" the page, and you'll get a new valid text, and your post will still be retained

    Then you can cut/paste in the text, and post.

    This works fine with Firefox, and should with IE as well, although I haven't tested with IE.

    And of course, if you are worried about losing a post, just select all and copy into your clipboard before posting ... just in case. I always do that for long posts on any forum anyway, as sometimes there is a hiccup that will lose your post, and that's very disappointing =/

    Just a DIY'er trying to learn, and improve and maintain his converted ca 1929 overhead gravity hot water system since there is no one local that can.
  • For some reason....

    and this has happened numerous times, usually during a lengthy response, when I get ready to post, I get an error message telling me that I've either timed out, or that there is a line error (unintelligable code) in my post that preclued it being posted. I'll take screen shots the next time it happens so Invision can see what I'm talking about.

    I, and I'm sure I can speak for the majority of Wallies, would like to thank you and TLLM for giving us a place to exchange and educate, and I appreciate your watching out for us. I know it is expen$ive.

    When it happens, I copy, start a new post, paste, copy and paste access code and all goes well. Seems to be an issue when developing a post, but not a problem when responding to other posts, unless lengthy.

    Thanks for all you've done and all you do for our industry Dan. It just wouldn't be the same without you.

  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490
    Let me see

    what you see and I'll have them look into it, Mark. Thanks.
    Retired and loving it.
  • Perry_2
    Perry_2 Member Posts: 381
    The timeout happens to me a lot

    It takes time to write; and almost always I get an error message as well on my post. It does not say "timeout"; but it is a timeout issue on how long a person can be in the "post reply" mode.

  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490

    send it to me.
    Retired and loving it.
  • blah blah blah BINGA!!!

    blah blah Blau

    Didnt happen that time obviously... Give it some time.

    Took a while, but here it is...

  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796

    I'm not sure the new system will prevent spybots from harvesting anything... let me explain.

    Currently, if we want to reply to a thread for the first time, the response window comes up, along with the code to enter at the bottom. Trouble is, the e-mail address of the OP is listed right on that page. In other words, the new system does nothing to prevent a spybot from harvesting e-mails.

    The only thing I see the new system doing is preventing malware from posting messages on the board. It could perhaps also help identify folk who post under different pseudonyms. Here is an alternative that you might consider discussing with your web admins:

    Instead of asking for a challenger/response question as part of the posting process, please consider sending a potential poster to one window where they have to enter the proper challenge/response answer, and succeeding at that, be taken to a new window where the message they wanted to reply to pops up as before.

    That way, clicking on "response" doesn't get the spybot his/her intended quarry, you prevent spybots from posting stuff as before, and the longer-winded posters here don't get caught as easily by the time-out trap. :-P

    Thanks again for everything you do and for hosting this gem of a resource. If the above is too gobbly-gook, please send me a mail off-line and I'll try to write something more coherent.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,490

    The intent with this system was to stop the spybot from posting, which is working. This cost me $5,000 to implement. Invision has lots of ways to stop everything. I could have you all register and have passwords, with approvals required for each post, and we discussed that. I could quickly put myself out of business with all that administration. There would be time for nothing else. And as I ask you all to jump though more hoops, you'll complain, and rightly so, and probably post less. And that will hurt the community.

    Another consideration is the cost of all of this. I'm willing to spend up to a point to keep my guests from getting spammed, but it starts to get out of hand for our small business, and we simply can't afford to do all that everyone wants us to do.

    In a perfect world, we wouldn't have spam. And in a perfect world people would buy a brick now and then to help pay for the operation of this site. I know that you do, and I appreciate that.
    Retired and loving it.
  • ttekushan_3
    ttekushan_3 Member Posts: 958

    As Al pointed out earlier, just refresh..

    You know, the arrow circle thingie.

    I just refresh the window without going back. You get a new code to type. This happens a lot since my posts are always so short :-)

  • ttekushan_3
    ttekushan_3 Member Posts: 958
    \"LONGER-WINDED\" ???

    Some of that wind is pretty quality stuff!

    Unless its wind that's been broken:-)
  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    Hey! I heard that!

    I've gone over to copying all my postings into the clipboard before pressing the submit button. That reduces the work later if I need to re-respond due to a timeout.
  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    Too true...

    ... nothing comes free, and the administration required to run a login/password site can be daunting indeed. I appreciate your worry that these systems will turn into such a hassle as to discourage folk from posting questions and answers...

    As spybots and malware evolves, so does the wall. Thanks for everything.
  • Ken D.
    Ken D. Member Posts: 836
    Text II

    Whew!!!! Thanks to all. No big deal, I was just curious. Honest!!!!
  • Timco
    Timco Member Posts: 3,040

    I go to the Wall from a closed browser, but am always asked for the code when replying or making a new post, never at the beginning or when reading a post, and use the back button. Must the computer be turned off? I always leave mine running. I appreciate the efforts and pledge a few bricks for the Wall.

    Just a guy running some pipes.
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