\"P.M.S.\" Building Needs Steam Boiler Advise

don_52 · January 2006

> January 26, 2006 
> 
> Re: Diagnostic assistance 
> for an inefficient Steam Boiler & Building 
> 
> I 
> own a small commercial storefront building in 
> Westmont, IL. It was proudly built in the 1920s, 
> tall ceilings of 11. It has a beautiful fully 
> paneled with 10 ceilings owners apartment 
> attached to the back. During the depression they 
> added an apartment upstairs by lifting the roof 
> and adding walls. The second floor has a separate 
> furnace (but old) and much lower ceilings. (That 
> tenant pays for his or her own heat.) 
> 
> The 
> first floor has a newer W-Mc boiler and huge 
> heating bills. My heating systems person and I 
> are in the process of determining what our 
> options are to alleviate this costly problem. 
> I completed W-Mcs Boiler Replacement 
> Worksheet. It was insightful, to see in 
> quantifiable terms how inefficient an 11' 
> Ceiling, Frame/Plate Glass Storefront Building 
> is. 
> 
> The first floor has 193.5 sq. ft. of cast 
> iron radiators and extensive un-insulated piping 
> running through the basement . The first floor 
> is 1350 square feet; the second floor is 900 sq. 
> ft., and basement is nearly the same. 
> 
> As I 
> purchased this building "used", the W-Mc boiler 
> was in place, it was new compared to the rest of 
> the building. 
> 
> The Furnace is as follows: 
> EG-40-SPDN 125K BTU @ 317lbs Steam #CP2797354 
> For the month of December our heating bill was 
> almost $100/week for first floor and basement. 
> This is why it has gotten my 
> attention! 
> 
> Weil-McClain thinks were over 
> sized, my heating guy thinks were undersized. I 
> stand in the basement and listen to it run & run 
> with very short cycles. 
> 
> The radiators 
> unevenly heat up and often are not very hot at 
> all. 
> 
> Im not positive I have the right 
> radiator vents or if they are in the right places 
> or if that is an important consideration. 
> 
> I 
> really need some coaching on this. It is some 
> engineering, some economics and some politics 
> (tenant relations) 
> 
> THANKS FOR HELPING TO SAVE 
> ME FROM AN EARLY ONSLAGHUT OF P.M.S. (there are 
> days my tennant wants to strangle me.) 
> 
> SIGNED, 
> Brian McElwain

Brian McElwain · January 2006

\"P.M.S. \" STEAM BOILER HELP NEEDED!!!

January 26, 2006

Re: Diagnostic assistance for an inefficient Steam Boiler & Building

I own a small commercial storefront building in Westmont, IL. It was proudly built in the 1920s, tall ceilings of 11. It has a beautiful fully paneled with 10 ceilings owners apartment attached to the back. During the depression they added an apartment upstairs by lifting the roof and adding walls. The second floor has a separate furnace (but old) and much lower ceilings. (That tenant pays for his or her own heat.)

The first floor has a newer W-Mc boiler and huge heating bills. My heating systems person and I are in the process of determining what our options are to alleviate this costly problem.

I completed W-Mcs Boiler Replacement Worksheet. It was insightful, to see in quantifiable terms how inefficient an 11' Ceiling, Frame/Plate Glass Storefront Building is.

The first floor has 193.5 sq. ft. of cast iron radiators and extensive un-insulated piping running through the basement
.
The first floor is 1350 square feet; the second floor is 900 sq. ft., and basement is nearly the same.

As I purchased this building "used", the W-Mc boiler was in place, it was new compared to the rest of the building.

The Furnace is as follows: EG-40-SPDN 125K BTU @ 317lbs Steam #CP2797354

For the month of December our heating bill was almost $100/week for first floor and basement. This is why it has gotten my attention!

Weil-McClain thinks were over sized, my heating guy thinks were undersized. I stand in the basement and listen to it run & run with very short cycles.

The radiators unevenly heat up and often are not very hot at all.

Im not positive I have the right radiator vents or if they are in the right places or if that is an important consideration.

I really need some coaching on this. It is some engineering, some economics and some politics (tenant relations)

THANKS FOR HELPING TO SAVE ME FROM AN EARLY ONSLAGHUT OF P.M.S. (there are days my tennant wants to strangle me.)

SIGNED, Brian McElwain

John H. · January 2006

the Boiler

has a rated steam output uf 317sqft if you add about 30% for the uninsulated piping to your standing radiation you are 1 section to big but not bad.
the next boiler down puts out 254sqft but I would just re vent.

don_52 · January 2006

Give me a call...

773-341-6453

We can chat about things to look at.

Cheers, db

Brian McElwain · January 2006

Re Venting Steam Boiler

John I'm not sure if all your message is on the wall, if I understand you corectly, given my radiator calulations are correct then I am only slightly oversized. What does it mean to re-vent? All of my vents are at the top of the radiators, I'm not sure they are the correct ones or what the correct means of installation is. Thanks Brian

\"P.M.S.\" Building Needs Steam Boiler Advise

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