Burnham steamer replacement

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to the homeowner for the work he did , we just tried to show him how it was supposed to be done with the finished product . Whether the flupipe was a disaster waiting to happen , well..... I've seen much , much worse . We'll get to them , one at a time . Thanks alot Chris .

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What a mess !!!!

This was a Burnham V74 that dry fired , I think . We had too much on our plate to even look for where it leaked . I've seen some sloppy copper piping and this one rates up there for sloppy . Found out the scoop - the new homeowner has a relative who does plumbing on the side ..... they both installed the Bock heater and the 2 zones of heat off the coil .

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Way too much work

for 3 men in a tight spot . If that newly built wall to the left wasn't there we could've saved 2 hours at the least . We used a Burnham V84 and dropped the header while increasing the boiler main to 3 inch . We also repiped all the flue and some of the domestic hot so noone scrapes their scalps off on a valve or a tee . I'm officially exhausted and very soon I am looking for a bar that serves Yuengling ...... or even a Corona .

Mark Hunt

Funny


I thought flue piping was supposed to pitch upwards.

Guess they figured out the magic word that causes the laws of physics to reverse?

That water heater flue is going to get someone killed.

Mark H

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Mark Hunt

ALRIGHT!


Ron Jr. fixed it!!!

Nice looking as usual Ron!

Mark H

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You know it !

There is no way we would leave a fluepipe pitched the wrong way . In the extreme cases we will chop the chimney higher if needs be . This one just squeaked by with pitch . And if you can believe it , repiping the flue was probably the easiest part of this debacle . Thanks alot Mark .

J.C.A._3

Good Golly,

What a mess. She's totally soaked...(and tottally commited to the 50 bucks!) Thank you F.Z.

Ron, How can you do this every day? You should be on the Vatican's list for sainthood by now. I would have blasted the owner back to the stoneage for the total lack of safety shown in your post.Gotta love the flue piping from the water heater. I believe Mr. Milne refers to that as the Walker/Reagan up and over loop.

A double dopeslap is definately in order here....Show us the finish oh guru of the space limitations. Chris

Joe Grosso

Ya know something......

I bet there has got to be someone else like me who fights off the urge to print off Ron's pics and use them for our own portfolio."here's some of our jobs" I think if NAOSHM ever starts a oil heat installer of the year award, Ron should be the first winner. Ron, you and your partners should be very proud of yourselves. Those Meenan customers don't know how good they got it.

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bob young

YUENGLING is an excellent choice and you more than earned it.

Dan Foley

Nice

As usual, nice work Ron. You've been cranking out some V-8's lately. Have you done any MPO's yet? How many days do you spend on a job like this? -DF

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B. Tice

ha ha

Dan, in old Ron's case, the question is how many hours? Thats the most unbelievable thing about their jobs.Mostly one dayers.

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Edward A. (Ed) Carery

Chimney connector pipe pitch

New install looks good. Nice job. I guess that they did not have that probe type LWCO cleaned as they should. Unfortunately some HOs think that since there is no blow down valve on a LWCO like there is on a MM #67, then somehow the probe type is "maintenance free" WRONG!!!!

I think that you have the WH chimney connector OK now compared to the way it was. To squeeze a bit more out of the pitch on the top of that WH you may consider trimming about an inch off of the female end of the ell on the top of the WH. It is not much but it equates to one inch lower at the start. Don't cut it too far or the opening at the breach of the WH then becomes an ellipse and restricts the flow.

Ed Carey

Al Gregory

Probably rotted above the water line. Found three this week.

The work you do is really unbelievable, better than anything I see around here.

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Thanks so much

for the kind words B. Tice , it's a real shot in the arm . I appreciate the feedback because we don't get much of it at work .

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Paying the price

I had one too many last night , never again ( I say that every weekend ) . Thanks Bob .

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Dan

After seeing the pictures of your latest steamers , I consider it the highest praise coming from you . We're on a roll with the Burnham V8s - I recommended we only sell Burnham for steam now and they actually listened . It's lower to the ground than the Peerless boiler we ususally sell , which is a benefit with low hanging mains . So far I've installed one MPO and helped finish another install , but in total we have 5 or 6 out there . It's amazing how fast that boiler heats up an indirect tank from cold start . This steam job was me , Phil and Tony and we worked non stop till almost 6 pm . We did cheat and leave the old one in the basement . Thanks again Dan .

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Edward

The homeowner moved in a few months ago , and this is a new account for us . But without a doubt I can say that probe was never taken out and cleaned . I tried pulling it with a 24 inch wrench , I couldn't budge it . We always install the probe with soft setting sealant and thread it in as lightly as possible without it leaking . Hand tight would probably work on a steam boiler but we turn it just a bit more after that .

Yep , sometimes we will cut down on the ell of the Bock heater to gain an inch or so . But I really don't like cutting out 1 of the 2 rivets that holds the bottom of the ell together . We aluminum tape the ell but even that tape gets brittle after a while . And why the homeowner installed such a big heater in a place with only 1.5 baths is beyond me . Thanks alot Edward .

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I'll take a better look tomorrow

back at the shop . The homeowner told us it was 9 years and a few months old . Do you know if the old V7 warantee was transferrable to a new homeowner ? Not that it would make a difference if it was the LWCOs fault . Thank you Al .

Al Gregory

Im not sure about the warrenty being transferable. I just give the wholesaler the serial number and they get me a new boiler. Kind of depressing when we get these calls.

Long Beach Ed

Zones Off Coil

Hi Ron,

Maybe you can share something. We're setting up a zone off a tankless coil this week also. I see you've come off the coil with steel pipe. Wanna tell me how you laid this out or send a pic? Our coil is 1/2". Figured we'd upsize to 3/4" and use steel for a way to help support stuff.

Always great to see a job laid out so nicely, and always love learning from others...

We see too little nice work out there!

Long Beach Ed

Long Beach Ed

Yea, tell us

about how you piped that loop off the coil...

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Yes , I increased the piping to 3/4 inch

right out of the coil , using 1/2 by 3/4 black tees and short 1/2 inch nips . The end of the top tee has a 1/2 by 1/4 bushing and the T+P gauge . The hot of the coil goes straight up with the expansion tank right below the circulators . For the circs I used a 3/4 inch cross tee . In the middle of the tee is an air eliminator , and the circs sit on either side of that . The bottom tee has the drain and I transitioned to copper out of the tee . I piped the dual feeder up high for easy service . This is one of those jobs where it's best to bring a load of tees , ells , nipples and figure it out on the jobsite . Sorry I didn't take any closeup pics of the coil . Thanks alot for the kind words Ed .

Long Beach Ed

Thanks, Ron

...for taking the time to provide the description.

Hope I can return the favor.

- Ed