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Al Letellier

I don't like the rain heads either. If you want a lot of water around you, go with the body spray jets. No problem with two valves, just make sure you place them so they don't spray directly on the doors...quarenteed leak !!!
There are all kinds of doors out there, from out of the box to custom. We use a lot of BASCO doors from a local plumbing supplier, but use a local glass company to install them. Less money and frustration...leave the installation to the experts.

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harvey

Shower doors, Moen valves

Am installing a 32 X 60 shower base. Any suggestions on shower doors. Could I put in two shower valves, one at each end? What do you think of those big round rain shower heads? Thanks for the input! Any pics?

gerry gill

i dont like rain heads,

i would rather be pelted with water than pee'd on..every dollar spent on the door will be good money spent..if you skimp on the door you will regret it..

thfurnitureguy_4

It's called a "push me pull you" shower. You know like the camel. It is on the list for the renovation when the kids move out!

gerry gill

now thats a darn good idea Al..

i never thought of having a glass company do it..i always throw it back at the carpenter..my theroy is - if the door was made of wood, would the plumber install it? of course not..so why do people expect the plumber to install a glass door? just cause its on a shower..yikes..when i install a door, it looks like a plumber installed the door..like you say, leave the door to someone who makes a living hanging and tweaking doors..no such thing as a small leak..

Mad Dog_2

Oh yeah, Gerry

I struggled to put a few in years ago... a real pia! WE always sned tyhe customer to a local shower door company, New York Shower Door that manufacturers and installs. THey aren't cheap, but it gets done right and they don't leak....a pro for a professional job. I find body sprays annoying....installed them in my own shower and hardly ever used them. I prefer the "drench" head showers, but it is all personal preference. Mad Dog

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Mad Dog_2

Most carpeneters will throw in the cheapeos from

the home centers. Mad Dog

Mike T., Swampeast MO

If you use two valves, pipe them in pressure balanced loops for both hot and cold! That way when both are running they receive equal pressure. If you don't one is likely to "rob" flow from the other and output will be very uneven.

Dave Yates (PAH)

diverter valves!

Not to put a damper on your project, but have you considered the hot water draw and duration of showering into consideration? If not, I'd suggest taking a measurement of the adjusted bathing temperature you use now as well as timing how long you both like to stay in under the cascading water.

If both new shower valves are 2.5-GPM and actually stay at or below that GPM rate (my experience has been that running pressures above 50 PSI result in higher flows), that's going to be at least 5-GPM. It's not unusual for the hot water to be 82% of the flow (especially during winter when the cold water will be around 40 F). That works out to 4.1-GPM needed from your existing domestic hot water point of source.

But, if you've got a delivery source worthy of meeting the demand, then I'd recommend all the bells & whistles regarding body jets and sunflower shower heads with diverter valves to redirect the water to suit the mood. Sounds like a fun project.

Piping can be an issue and the suggestion to utilize ASSE-1016 certified pressure & temperature scald-guard valves is strongly supported.

We recently analyzed why a Kohler bathing environment wasn't performing up to expectations: overhead sunflower rain head; high on the wall shower head on one hi-flow (up to 15-GPM) pressure balanced faucet; body jets; shower head; and hand-held wand on a second hi-flow PB faucet and an 80-GPM shower-tower that darn near required a seat belt to keep from being blasted across this sunken ceramic tiled grotto that held more than 100 gallons once filled to a point where the 80-GPM recirc could function without losing its suction from cavitation.

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harvey

thanks

Yes, Dave you make a good point. Thanks to your acticles in P&M I have the fire power needed. Good suggestions Any more?

jerry scharf_3

Gee

And I thought you were going to post someting excessive.

jerry